Do I have good control or not??

[Jibba Jabba]

Excellent results Julie! Try to add a few pumpkin seeds or sunflower seeds to your porridge also, perhaps tomorrow try leaving the 2 hour test out and test your bg at 1 and 3 hours after eating and post your results again.

Regards

Nigel

Hi Nigel
I picked up some pumpkin seeds in the health shop this morning so I will give them a go tomorrow and test at 1 and 3 hours and post again.

The hourly test means I have been getting the earlier train into work so that I can test in the station loos rather than "on the train" :lol: :lol: but it's worth it.

x

S'okay - I'll get over it... You might even be able to get that 1 hr spike down a little (although this may raise your 2hr reading a little, too) by adding some cream to the oats?

I did think about adding some single cream Patch

x

 

[Jibba Jabba]

Update on my porridge breakfast for anyone interested :wink: .

This mornings fasting test was 4.3. Then had 20g Scotts Porridge Oats with a few pumpkin seeds (as per Noblehead's advice) 6 raspberries and about 8 blueberries. Tested an hour later at 7.3. two hours later 4.6 and 4.3 after three hours. The test after an hour showed a bit higher than yesterday (6.5) but my was cancelled and I had to test on the train (lucky enough I managed to nabb myself a seat and tried to do it incogneto :lol: :lol: ) so maybe there's a bit of stress factor to take into account :lol:

I will test, test and test again tomorrow.

Julie
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[Patch]

How big is a 20g serving? Is that about a tea cup full of made up porridge (incl. water/milk?)

 

[Jibba Jabba]

How big is a 20g serving? Is that about a tea cup full of made up porridge (incl. water/milk?)

No Patch, just the dry weight porridge, which I then make up with water zapped in the microwave.

Julie

 

[Patch]

Once you've made it up, about how much (by volume) is it? Just curious as to the amount as it would look in a bowl... (I used a tea cup full because that is a pretty standard size - wheras bowls can differ wildly).

 

[Jibba Jabba]

Once you've made it up, about how much (by volume) is it? Just curious as to the amount as it would look in a bowl... (I used a tea cup full because that is a pretty standard size - wheras bowls can differ wildly).

I will do the "tea cup" measure when I get home from work Patch.

I have just bought a pair of digital scales, which have been an eyeopener to me to say the least - I never realised just how small say, for example, 10grams of something is / looks :shock: :lol: .

Will post my findings later

Julie
xx

Hi Patch, I have just measured the dry weight in a tea cup and it looks about 1/3rd of a cup. I will measure (cup wise) again when I have made it up in the morning and let you know. Julie x

 

[Jibba Jabba]

Once you've made it up, about how much (by volume) is it? Just curious as to the amount as it would look in a bowl... (I used a tea cup full because that is a pretty standard size - wheras bowls can differ wildly).

I will do the "tea cup" measure when I get home from work Patch.

I have just bought a pair of digital scales, which have been an eyeopener to me to say the least - I never realised just how small say, for example, 10grams of something is / looks :shock: :lol: .

Will post my findings later

Julie
xx

Hi Patch, I have just measured the dry weight in a tea cup and it looks about 1/3rd of a cup. I will measure (cup wise) again when I have made it up in the morning and let you know. Julie x

Morning

I measured the made up amount "tea cup wise" this morning and it is about a cup of tea's worth (about 1/4 inch below the top i.e. not filled right to the very top, but just like if you were having a cup of tea :lol: ) Not a great quantity but fairly substantial with some blueberries, raspberries and pumpkin seeds chucked in

HTH Patch

Julie
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[Patch]

Cheers Julie - much appreciated. I bet that's very nice bulked up with some nuts/seeds/fruit (I'm thinking chopped walnuts and black berries...) Bet it would be even nicer with some Da Vinci Sugar Free Flavoured Syrup...

(I've avoided porrigde like the plague in the past - but I *might* give this a go in the future...)

 

[Jibba Jabba]

Cheers Julie - much appreciated. I bet that's very nice bulked up with some nuts/seeds/fruit (I'm thinking chopped walnuts and black berries...) Bet it would be even nicer with some Da Vinci Sugar Free Flavoured Syrup...

(I've avoided porrigde like the plague in the past - but I *might* give this a go in the future...)

Hi Patch

Glad I could be of help - I have a bit of a problem though (I have just posted on another topic) that my bg has just gone down to 3.9 and I'm not quite sure what to do. Hopefully someone will come along and advise :shock:

Julie
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[Patch]

Personally (as a T2) I wouldn't be to worried about that. In fact, I'd probably just eat a pie, or a cake if I was worried (which I would not be)...

 

[cugila]

Any level below 4 mmol/l is considered to be hypo territory Julie. So whether you are T1 or T2 it should be treated. As I pointed out in the other thread you need to take fast acting carbs to boost the level slightly.

Do NOT take slow acting carbs as advised above as they will take ages to have any effect and your levels will drop more in the meantime, especially if you are active. Fine if you are in a sedentary occupation maybe but definitely NOT advised for treatment of hypo levels, even if only mild.

Did you not have any warning that your levels were low ? Hypo symptoms ?

 

[Jibba Jabba]

Hi Cugila

Yes, I felt (and still feel) a bit light headed and shakey. Also felt the need to go for a wee :lol: Have tested again after 15 mins and it has gone up to 4.7. I will do it again now just to make sure. I have also responded on the other thread.

Thanks for your help - it is much appreciated.

Julie
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[Patch]

For me, a pie is pretty **** fast acting! Don't know if I'd like to get into the habit of taking Glucotabs OR fast acting carbs...

Don't forget - overmedicating/undereating is what causes hypo's (exercise and alcohol are factors too). Do both (together) at your peril! :wink:

 

[cugila]

For me, a pie is pretty **** fast acting! Don't know if I'd like to get into the habit of taking Glucotabs OR fast acting carbs...

Don't forget - overmedicating/undereating is what causes hypo's (exercise and alcohol are factors too). Do both (together) at your peril! :wink:

So you are saying that a Pie will boost your Bg levels from the hypo zone to normal in less than 10-15 mins ? What sort of Pie would that be then ?

Glucotabs are sugar/glucose/dextrose.......normal stuff. It isn't a habit anyway......just the approved treatment when at hypo levels. Needs must as they say. It does work as those of us that actually have had hypo's and know what to do will testify.

As for the causes of Hypo's there are many causes, best not to oversimplify things especially when advising recently diagnosed members. You should check out the correct advice regarding treating a hypo........ we wouldn't want anybody to go away from here thinking a Pie is the recognised treatment now would we.......that would be silly.

 

[Patch]

Cheers Ken - you've just completely changed the dynamics of this thread for the worse. Statements like "so you are saying" and "would that be then?" are provocative, and can be (mis?)interpretted as passive agressive.

We're all different... For ME, a reading of 3.9mmol/L is close enough to 4mmol/l (lower limit of the non-diabetic/safe/normal range) for me not to worry about.

I'd eat something (if I felt it necessary - and at 3.9mmol/L, and as a T2 I wouldn't) that I KNOW (from personal experience) would raise my BG to a higher level, and that would KEEP it there for a while. Fast acting carbs cause a spike - I try to avoid spikes.

We're constantly told that "we're all different" so why is the advice to treat hypo's just a blanket statement for everybody? "Take some fast acting sugar".

Just because you get a reading of 3.9mmol/L, that doesn't necessarily[i/i] mean you're having/about to have a hypo. I know you'll say "but that's what a hypo is defined as", and I understand that (I can read) - but let's not freak everyone out by telling them that if they get a reading of 3.9mmol/L they are going to start shaking and sweating and passing out.

we wouldn't want anybody to go away from here thinking a Pie is the recognised treatment now would we

I'm not here to give anybody advice, or provide treatment tips. I'm here to share my own real-life experiences, and hopefully benefit from those of others. I've had numerous readings of 3.7 - 3.9mmol in the past, and that is what my comments here are based on.

My experiences are not meant to prove or disprove anything. I'm just sharing.

Peace, Love and Porridge with Seeds n' Berries.

 

[sugarless sue]

You may just be sharing Patch....we are just Monitoring !

Don't forget everybody reads these threads, new, experienced etc. We just provide an all round view....you should know that by now, it's happened often enough to you and others.

 

[cugila]

Cheers Ken - you've just completely changed the dynamics of this thread for the worse. Statements like "so you are saying" and "would that be then?" are provocative, and can be (mis?)interpretted as passive agressive.

Really......so giving somebody correct and good advice is bad ?

There has been no change in anything in this thread.......we always question something if it is not good advice, we owe it to the members to do that and all those who read this and just 'lurk'.

As for what I say........I will let others be the judge of that. You can think what you like.

Hope you don't think that's aggressive BTW......... :wink:

 

[hallii]

Hi

I can manage bran flakes of a morning (or so I thought :cry: )and test around 4.4 (fasting), which goes up to 5's or 6's (sometimes 4+) 2 hours after. After reading the advice on this forum I decided to test an hour after to see if I am spiking on the hour and had a reading of 9.4, which went down to 4.8 2 hours after. Am I basically in control do you think or would it be better to reduce my amount of bran flakes to see if I can get me levels down after an hour?

Julie

I would agree with Jilly, from the figures you quote I would call that good control.

Remember we all vary, and we are diabetic, so you cannot always expect perfect results, we can only do the very best we can. It would not make sense (to me) to strive for the unatainable at the expense of a reasonable quality of life, and after 8 years of diet control I opted for a low dose Metformin, this allows me a little more freedom but I still have to watch the carbs.

Some T2s can manage to get to "normal" levels of BG by diet and excercise alone.
Others cannot, so what is good for one may not be good for someone else.

Morning BG figures are, for many T2s, always higher in the mornings, this is due to your body dumping some glucose ( under hormonal control) into your blood to get you awake and ready for the day, but from your fasting figure it looks like you may not get this effect.

My figures are much the same, and I regard them as good (for me), my HbA1c about a month ago was 5.2 so yours should be in the same ball park, your Doc. will be happy with that.

I find bran flakes and most other cereals will give me a spike, and 9 after an hour is not that bad if it is coming down. You could try eating two smaller portions spaced one hour apart, that might help.
I just avoid cereals full stop. I make my own (lowish carb) bread and tend to eat eggs and protein for breakfast.

Cabbage, onions, swede and many other vegetables contain plenty of fibre and they do not have added sugar, as do bran flakes.

Actually there is one cereal I can eat, mueslii, a small portion with soya milk does not cause me any problems, Jordan's is a good one.

Fight on!

H

 

[Patch]

As for what I say........I will let others be the judge of that. You can think what you like.

I don't know what you mean by this statement?

You should probably be more considerate of the people that read these threads (members and lurkers). Quite often your posts can be considered as quite confrontational. No need of it on a public board.

 

[cugila]

Patch.

Thank you for your advice........always good to hear from the minority.