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Osbourne has said that should they be in power after the next election they will be cutting benefits by another 25%.
Most people in receipt of benefits after pensioners are people with jobs.
 
Simon84 said:
he said sorry tho

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I can't stand the way that guy talks to the people as if we are five year olds!
When he became Camerons stooge he was asked how much he thought the state pension was for a single person.
His answer was typical of the millionaire politicians who have no idea and even less qualifications to be in the position of power he was ....
His answer was .... thirty five pounds a week?
If you don't find that disturbing you should.
 
No of course it doesn't! I don't really follow politics because it seems they are all out for themselves. These people do not seem to live in the world. I work in care and the cut backs they are having to make in care is ridiculous. People have worked all their lives paying into the system and they hardly get anything in return, having to sell up their own homes and possessions to pay for care is wrong. Yet the government can soon muster up millions in foreign aid. Stop sending money abroad and close the boarders!!!!
 
Bluetit1802 said:
I wouldn't trust the Labour lot with the economy because they will plough money in popular places such as the NHS without any thought as to where this money is coming from. If the money ain't there, nowt should be spent. Basic good housekeeping.
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Yes but they don't cut the money for the most vulnerable members of society and leave them with even less money.
 
Scandichic said:
Yes but they don't cut the money for the most vulnerable members of society and leave them with even less money.
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They just sell our gold reserves when gold was at an all time low (Gordon Brown as Chancellor) costing the UK tax payer many billions of pounds and leaving the UK with barely any gold reserves when the banks crashed and the recession began, hence the austerity measures that have had to be introduced.
 
When Labour came to power the police force had been decimated as had the nurses and doctors as had the infrastucture of schools and hospitals.
It had to be paid for somehow and that metal was sitting there doing nothing.
IThe minimum wage was introduced and the result was the amount of benefit claimants plummeted and small business popped up and thrived all over the place.
The economy was strong and in the words of Mervin King there it was people like him who were to blame for the banking crisis.
Not a political fault but a banking one.
Even nations that had gold went down the pan.
Labour were not responsible for the collapse of western banking capitalism.
Right wing Tory banking and investment types brought the western world top it's knees and if you understand how our economies work you'll understand that austerity wasn't and isn't the only option.
The U'K was hit especially hard by a banking crisis because it is the banking capital of the planet.
Are you aware that since the banking crisis the wealthiest people on the planet have been raking in ever more wealth at the fastest pace on the grandest scale at any time in history?
Not throwing themselves from the tenth story windows?
That's because it is a manufactured crisis where the banks now dominate the world like never before.
The money loaned out never actually existed till the bankers created it out of thin air on computers so they never really lost anything tangible.
 
Who do we pay all this money to?

Is it going to one man or an institution?

Or could it a moneylender or maybe a bank?

The gold in our reserves was worthless and it was of no use to the country.
No country requires itself to hoard gold.

The inflow of capital is what matters. Your taxes are more important than any gold!

Imports and exports are how you are judged and the bigger the group of countries trade wise that you belong to is important in your countries standing and development in the world.

Why are so many countries trying to join or have joined the EU? Because of politics and security?

No! Free Trade!

Why are we trying to get out?
It would completely wreck our export market with Europe!
Even big business and the city are telling everybody not to come out. The Tory leadership is deflecting the issues!
Would it make any difference to immigration!

Not at all!
Then why?

It's popular to blame someone else for our own shortcomings!

We in this country have the worst workers rights than nearly everywhere in Europe!

We do not have a far left party in this country, which doesn't balance the far right parties!
Unions are thought of in this country as really bad for the country, whereas the opposite is often more likely. They do look after their members more than the public knows.

Zero hours! Non contract working! Slavery an all time high! There are still employers paying under minimum wage , never mind paying a living wage..

Need I gone on?

This country's politicians are reversing all the social progress our forefathers fought so hard for and there is not a lot we can do about, the democracy we live is not so democratic.
House of Lords! It's so 17th century!
We live in a monarchy and the establishment still have too much power over the overwhelming majority of the population.
 
So why did Gordon Brown announce publically he was going to sell the tax payers' gold reserves by auction, which had the obvious effect of driving down the value of gold round the world. All the markets knew in advance. It did drive the value down but he still sold when the value was artificially low. It most certainly was not worthless before he did this. He made it worthless.

Easy. He did it to shore up the London bullion banks, who for some reason were very short of it. They were then able to buy the tax payers gold at rock bottom prices, later to sell at a huge profit. One has to wonder why he did this. Had he really intended to sell the gold to plough back the money into the British economy and infrastructure, benefits, and so on, he would have kept quiet and sold in the normal way at high prices.

What did he do with the meagre amount of money he got for the gold? He invested it in foreign currencies, mostly the Euro, which was at one of its peaks in value. So he sold low and bought high.

Economic ineptitude. He lost this country millions.

The far left of the labour party has gone because voters didn't want them. Simples.

I'm out of this conversation now. Little point. We will never agree.
 
We have what is known as a fractional reserve banking system.
Means the bank only have to have a small fraction of what they lend out.
The banks create money with every loan they make.
The banks create the money in circulation not the government.
You want to borrow ten million pounds the bank has to have a million pounds in it.
The ten million is created out of thin air at interest and is destroyed once the loan has been paid back but the interest isn't destroyed.
This to the international bankers is better than money growing on trees.
It's also why they can never lose.
They are lending you something that never existed in the first place.

They create paper money and digital money for themselves and go out and buy up tangible assets like gold oil land property nations ships factories etc.
It's very clever stuff and completely against the interests of the people whop pay for all this.
Iran is the last nation producing it's own interest free currency so are not owned by the bankers.
We'll soon bomb them into debt though like we have with Libya and other places over the last few years.
 
Well this was really grown up when leaving office in 2010


"Labour delivered a final two-fingered salute to Britain by boasting 'there's no money left' on leaving office, it emerged yesterday as it became clear that the true size of the national debt is more than £2trillion.

The new Chief Secretary to the Treasury, Liberal Democrat David Laws, revealed that he arrived at his office to discover a handover note from his Labour predecessor Liam Byrne."

It read: 'Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid to tell you there is no money. Kind regards and good luck!'
 
It would have been impossible for a government to secretly put gold into the free market and probably illegal.
There's a lot of manipulation and dishonesty surrounding gold.
If you wish to invest in large amounts of gold say a million quids worth you don't get gold bars .... you get gold certificates which is another form of paper money.
You can sell trade those pieces of paper at a loss or profit whenever you want.
What you can't do is demand the physical gold because it doesn't exist.
Paper gold sales have outstripped the amount of physical gold by hundreds of times.
It's yet another banking scam which will unravel at some point and the tax payers will pay for it all again.
Our monetary system is faith based.
It is based on nothing else.
No gold or silver standard any longer.
No nothing just pieces of paper.
When people stop having faith in the paper having any worth the whole thing collapses.
 

Conservative Reggie Maudling left a similar note for Labour's Jim Callaghan when he became chancellor in 1964, which said: "Sorry to leave it in such a mess."
 
The monetary system we have is absurd.
Without debt there is no money.
That is because all money is borrowed into existence .... at interest.
This is why Mayer Amschel Rothschild in the 19th century said ....Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws
Him and his fellow international bankers don't care a jot if Labour or Tory or Hitler are in power so long as they can create the currencies out of thin air .... at interest.
 
“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages...will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without suspecting that the system is inimical to their best interests.” — Rothschild Brothers of London communiqué to associates in New York June 25, 1863
 
"Capital must protect itself in every way...Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd." -- Taken from the Civil Servants' Year Book, "The Organizer" January 1934
 
Simon84 said:
he said sorry tho
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Love the song, very clever.
At least the 3 Welsh LibDems didn't have to apologise, if you're a Welsh student you won’t have to pay more than £3,685 a year, wherever you study. It seems a weird situation in what's supposed to be a United Kingdom, united by what I wonder.
 

I live in Wales and what happens here and in Scotland is that the resources available are used differently than in England.
Wales and Scotland are traditionally more socialist in their approach to supporting people and communities while allowing business a relatively free hand.
Hence free prescriptions and education.
 
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