Does low carbing improve insulin sensitivity?

Oldvatr · May 9, 2017

No2D said:
Hello Again @Oldvatr,
I'm still looking into my original question trying to find a reference to cell utilization of glucose with and without the presence of insulin. I agree with you that glucose uptake and utilization are two different things. Haven't found anything about insulin actually being physically present inside the cell to instruct enzymes to catalyze glucose or attach to an existing glycogen molecule. If I'm understanding you correctly (given that the body burns only ATP not glucose) the presence of insulin prohibits the conversion of glucose into ATP?
Sorry it's hard to process everything your saying at one time so I'll need to digest it a little bit at a time.

Great image of glycogen molecule inside muscle cell; can store about 30,000 glucose molecules in an amazing little sphere. Building muscle size through exercise increases the number of these in each muscle cell. Thanks to Häggström, Mikael (2014). "Medical gallery of Mikael Häggström 2014".

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YET Another Edit: Woo-Woo!! Just found this and looks like a positive endorsement to reduce IR with exercise from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23899560 .. A portion of it is:

"Exercise training is the most potent stimulus to increase skeletal muscle GLUT4 expression, an effect that may partly contribute to improved insulin action and glucose disposal and enhanced muscle glycogen storage following exercise training in health and disease." Whoops - they meant to say "conditions" not "disease":

I am not sure this is addressing the condition known as IR. Certainly building up muscles will increase the potential for better glucogen storage, but I see nothing that shows that T2D IR will necessarily be improved by exercise, There is a link to a referenced study in the margin of the abtract, but the link does not appear to be functioning, so I cannot access that report,

Finally a study that discusses T2 IR effects and GLUT4
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550413107000678

Damtov8 · May 9, 2017

AngelaLynch said:
Fat is the cause of insulin resistance not carbohydrates, the advice that Diabetes Research UK gives is very wrong. Insulin resistance is lessened by eating carbs, (Video Link has been removed) this is one of countless videos that discuss this. I could have a long list here, and the Doctors who subscribe to this point of view are not quacks, they bass their ideas on sound research.

Moderator has removed the video link due to possible virus

Put on a continuous blood sugar monitor like the Freestyle libre, then you will see that carbs are the villain here not fat. I am down HbA1c from over 12 to 5.8 by low carb high fat.
Of course you may have a different type of diabetes or metabolism. I am type 2.
But you have to use a macro to see how much carb, protein & fat your body needs each day to succeed.

Damtov8 · May 9, 2017

Put on a continuous blood sugar monitor like the Freestyle libre, then you will see that carbs are the villain here not fat. I am down HbA1c from over 12 to 5.8 by low carb high fat.
Of course you may have a different type of diabetes or metabolism. I am type 2.
But you have to use a macro to see how much carb, protein & fat your body needs each day to succeed.
Low carb high fat does not mean eat all you like - you need the balance of the correct amounts for success.

CherryAA · May 9, 2017

Oldvatr said:
This is an open forum for discussion. The poster has a point of view that may not be in line with our own, but nonetheless should be considered on its merits.

It is incumbent on us to challenge these ideas, question the scientific backing being claimed, and provide commentary as to whether the claims are valid or not. I did that with LCHF diet before I comitted to it, and I still try to be vigilant to new discoveries.

In this instance I have not found any supporting evidence that I consider to be compelling, but I see a lot of pseudoscience and naturist blog chatter that does not fill me with hope for a cure by this route. I do see things being put forward that would actually present me with personal injury and would be unhealthy for me to even consider,

This poster is not the first to offer a cure through this methodology, and will probably not be the last.

I've no problem with the idea of alternative routes being advocated and I'm quite happy to listen, learn and explore anything and everything that might help as long as there is some evidence presented that I can check out and find credible. I found a way that works for me for now, but I well appreciate that that might not last and as such I need to be completly open any other ideas too.

That doesn't take away the fact that criticising a different website by posting such criticisms here as if this website is in some way responsible for that other website - is a tad strange.

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