Well being neither Swedish nor female I'm not sure I see the link.. both studies show "associations" and nothing stronger.. as I said choose your own path.. There are plenty of Vegetarians and Vegans following a LCHF way of eating who are members here. So I'm not sure exactly what you are claiming is deception?
This study only monitors young women (only). The main rejection criterion on enrolement is that there has been no pre existing CVE, bit no ither screening on pre-existing conditions ws ma
This study was conducted on women only, who were young and had no previous CVE. There seems to be no other screening of pre existing conditions, such as diabetes.
You do realise that this site is NOT Diabetes UK?
You're not diabetic (according to what you have written elsewhere).. why do you come here and tell people who have put their diabetes in remission (well controlled.. reversed.. choose the words) that they are doing it all wrong by not doing it your way?
Sorry BB I would not fully agree with your last sentance about DUK, We would all like to see the Diabetes dragon slain, and whilst I do disagree with much of the advice that DUK supports, I believe we see different paths to get there.
I believe I've read that too.
This is an open forum for discussion. The poster has a point of view that may not be in line with our own, but nonetheless should be considered on its merits.
Exercise is the best form of insulin resistant breakdown I've found. Why it is sooooo frustrating when im in agony walking, let alone exercising very regularly like i did before diagnosis.One more thought about reducing insulin resistance and resistive training exercise from Wikipedia:
"Muscle fibers grow when exercised and shrink when not in use. This is due to the fact that exercise stimulates the increase in myofibrils which increase the overall size of muscle cells. Well exercised muscles can not only add more size but can also develop more mitochondria, myoglobin, glycogen and a higher density of capillaries. However muscle cells cannot divide to produce new cells, and as a result we have fewer muscle cells as an adult than a newborn."
Within each muscle cell all these great things happen:
More mitochondria are created to convert more glucose to ATP at about 1:19 ratio. This requires oxygen in the cell to convert glucose to ATP.
Myoglobin is like hemoglobin only it stores oxygen in the muscle cell instead of transporting it in the bloodstream.
Glycogen is a HUGE molecule that stores more than 30,000 glucose molecules within the cell. Exercise promotes more of these. The more glycogen molecules within each cell the faster high levels of BG are cleared from the blood stream.
Capillaries feed cells oxygen and remove CO2, a process / by product to convert glucose to ATP.
It all goes back to the basic idea that the most effective way to reduce insulin resistance is through anaerobic exercise. Go through all the muscle groups spaced at 2 - 3 days, tearing down and then building up.
Ugggh! Why isn't there a pill I can take instead????
Thanks, that is what I was trying to get her to understand, they are two different beasts.
I am not sure what it is about the logic you are using in your thread, but something is setting off my alarm bells. I think it is this assertion <<< It's not much of a leap to suggest an LCHF diet increases IR or at least won't bring it down.It may be that an intense workout should be combined with carbs and protein.>>> that i find I disagree with, but not sure why.
The process for muscles is governed by what is termed the Krebs cycle or Citric cycle. In each muscle cell there is the equivalent of a multiway switch, controlled by hormones. Insulin is one and this controls the cells storage path. If insulin is present, glucose can move from the bloodstram into the local fat cell in the muscle for future use. If insulin is absent then that stops. If adrenalin is present then the cell burns energy /initially from the local store, but then direct from the bloodstream. There are other switches that control passage of stored glucose back into the blood. And others control burning lipids for energy if there is a lack of glucose (these can kick in when the body thinks it is facing starvation so the muscle cells can burn glucose, glucogen, lipids, and even ketones, bit like a multifuel burner.
I look on insulin as being like the bouncer on the nightclub door. At the cell level most communication is by molecular keys and electrical charge, which is unique to each of us. I do not think insulin actually enters a muscle cell it is just the key specifically for glucose. Yes, I also reckon that the presence of insulin inhibits the conversion to ATP for glucose, but does not impair the lipid conversion to ATP which is how we still function on a keto diet. I think insulin only works to control admission to the cell, but glucose in stored glucogen as depicted in that lovely pic is still converted to ATP as required
