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Don't involve yourself in the blame game.

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although I welcome a post such as this, its hard to feel positive. I have been told that I have to start insulin now as oral medication not working on its own. I admit I was hugely overweight a few years ago and have lost a lot of weight since. Although My Granmother was type 2 as well, my partner tells me she has no sympathy for me as it was due to the fact I didnt look after myself that I got DM. This opinion has since got worse since I told her that I now need to take insulin as well. I am finding it hard enough to come to terms with the fact I have to take insulin as it is without the blame that goes with it. Of course I am well aware that it is my responsability that I have this condition just makes things a tad more difficult to deal with thats all
 

It's a tough call right? One thing I do want to say, being overweight and that being the cause of diabetes is a topic that is discussed on here quite often. I did believe being overweight was my own fault, and the reason I was diagnosed. Now, I'm not so sure. Things I have read, lead me to suspect we are carb intolerant, like some people are wheat, or lactose intolerant, and due to being carb intolerant we gain weight. What makes me believe that? I began to low carb and the weight fell. As the weight fell, I became slightly more tolerant of carbs. I suspect I am never going to be able to tolerate them like "normal" people, even if I were stick thin, but from only being able to control my BG eating 20g of carbs a day or less, I can now eat around 50g and keep good control. I rarely eat 50g, but some days 30g. I could never have done that when first diagnosed.

I do believe we shouldn't get involved in the blame game, any of us T2. If diabetes does turn out to be an effect of carb intolerance, then I am not going to look back thinking I spent my life blaming myself. It is what it it.

Chin up, posters here have gone from medication to insulin, and it has been a lot better than they thought. Don't see it as a negative, it could be the making of you. It has been for some others.

Best of luck - Joanna
 

The quote at he end of your post -which also strikes a chord with me- probably says it all Steve. To date I am successfully keeping off insulin but i feel as you do about it.

I expect your partner means well in tellng you it is your own fault. She is probably trying to encourage you to take charge of your own health , insulin or not you will still need to do that.
I managed to stay offf or postpone insulin by incresing my exercise and low carbing. I was not overweigh so in a way it was harder. I made a determind effort over abou 3 months and it paid off. That was over wo years ago now.

I don't have a weigh problem and only ever gained weight wih diabetes medication so have always been afraid of he insulin - weigh gain- more insulin- cycle - but that is not my reason for haing the thought of it.
I very much resent being at the beck and call of the NHS because of my diabetes . I feel that I am attached by some sort of invisible cord which they can tug at anytime they please . The whole thing feels like an invasion of y privacy and I don't want to
make that cord shorter.

I am so sorry for everyone who blames hemselves for this condition. I have always felt instinctively, that weight gain MUST be a symptom and not a cause. That is not to say that nohing can be done about weight but it is hardly surprising that, if people gain weigh whatever they do then they are bound o think it is a lost cause and hat they may as well just give in to it.
Particularly if they don't know hey are diabetic and even when they do hey are not given appropriate dietary advice.

They don' know what riggers diabetes in anyone let alone hose genetically inclined o get it. In my case i suspect it was stress.
Maybe i is triggered in some when they reach a certain weight , this can happen with other hormones i believe.

I do not blame myself but had i been overweigh i am sure i would have done so - reinforced by the opinions of family and friends. It seems o be human nature o try to blame the vicim/
Peole have tried to tell me it was because of my "faddy eating" This being the GI diet which probably kept diabetes at bay for years.
I Try telling your parner hat alhough you undestand she has your bes ineress at heart her attitude just makes you want o give up. Ask for her help in rying to keep your weight down.
If you really feel so strongly about insulin hen tell your doctor that you want to delay going onto it for a short time just to see if y
there is anyhing at all you can do to improve your readings. Then try very har in that period. if here is no improvemen then
you will know that you did everything possible and may find it easier to come o terms with he insulin.

I never ook glic myself but imagine that this also causes weight gsin. If you mange o reduce your dosage of this it could help considerably.
Start by telling yourself it is not your fault. There is a genetic link and noone knows what riggered your diabetes. You put on weigh BECAUSE of the diabees and it is harder to shift .
Maybe you didn' look after yourself but you didn't realise why this was happening and that here was anthing you could do about it.
Now you do.
Good luck with i all . You are not alone . Maybe you should ge your partner o read his hread.
Yes , it is hard enough wihout our nearest and dearest making i more difficult - albeit they mean well.

Wort a try to ge them to "leave you alone"?
 
Thanks for the replies people, much appreciated. I guess she does mean well, just sometimes she does have a funny way of showing it.
 
What a great post, I have been blamed by The So Called Caring Profession for being type 2 even though I am not obese. I am insulin dependent type 2. but since being on insulin I have put on nearly 2 stone. I have an appointment at the hospital on wednesday but I'm not expecting any miricles. Every time I go the nurses or doctors are really rude to me, I 'm not aggressive or cheeky to the staff I don't understand why they behave in this manner. One told me if I had a tumor it was my own fault! So Its GREAT that some one has put on type 2 is not self inflicted. D
 
2 stone since the insulin?? GULP!! :shock: :shock:

thats what I am worried about
 
what a fantastic post Catherine, i struggle with my weight and always feel guilty , i will remember your words for always thanks
 
Thanks for that one Catherine
hana
 
In America it's always been "Eat more whole grains" now we're finding pretty much everything we've been told about nutrition was a lie. Pretty much no one in the US knows anything about nutrition, especially health care professionals. That's why I bacame an Orthomolecular Nutritionist, to find out the truth. Now I know the truth and it's not at all what you might think. The number one cause of all most all chronic disease is high insulin. Period. Grains are what's killing us #1, then it's potatoes #2, then it's all the sugar added to processed foods #3. Obesity, insulin resistance, diabetes, metabolic sundrome, CAD, heart attack, stroke, inflammatory disease, dimentia, Alzheimer's (now called type 3 diabetes), and auto immune disease. All caused by too high insulin levels. With type 2 diabetes, we need to quit treating the symptoms and treat the cause - high insulin. Ever have a doctor check your insulin level? Probably not.
 
Well this has been an interesting thread to read, a great help, I am stunned reading the blood sugar 101 sites article 'You Did NOT Eat Your Way to Diabetes!'. very informative.

While topics such as this one, that have been 'around' for a while drift off topic, it usually drifts back. feeling down this morning, now feeling a bit more perky.
:thumbup:
 
I was diagnosed as type 2 last week and finding it hard to get my head round,if it makes anyone feel better im not over weight and i never have been over weight .I have always drank diet drinks and ate brown bread and i have diabetes really dont see why why people think you need to be big,those ive told look at me and say you cant be your not fat like im lying ,its whats called uneducated :roll:
 

Good post, Foxy123! About 20% of Type 2s are normal weight/skinny, so you're not alone. In fact, insulin resistance/Type 2 can make you fat - all that extra blood glucose stored as fat in your fat cells :shock:

Viv 8)
 
Folks have you seen the latest news story from a Tory GP who wants all diabetes patients to pay for all treatment? I will see if I can find the link - it is quite an evil push to demonise people with the condition. I was horrified. :O
 
Nada said:
Here it is and he's an MP too

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/gp-warns-over ... -illnesses

I cannot write what I think of this idea

Fuming
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You could email him - contact details on the Parliament website, parliament.uk - but try not to be too rude! If this is the full quote and not taken out of context, it just serves to show how little some GPs understand diabetes.

Having said that, there are some patients who sit waiting for diabetes clinics while eating doughnuts and drinking hot chocolate . . . just a shame all of us have to get tarred with the same brush!

Viv 8)
 
My diabetics is due to pancretitus...I am NOT an alcholic [more prejudic...which in turn was probably due to the range of treatment I have had since birth due to CHD, including masses of xrays, steroids and other ghastly stuff

I have also had menegitus...due to too much thinking?, a kidney removed due to a tumour...too much weeing? as well as many other illnesses.

It is quite scary this blame game

Myself I suppose I must blame my mum for daring to have a disabled child. Or is it my grandparents, adam and eve/...THE BIG BANG!!!!
 
What's his email address Viv? I feel the need to say a few words. :x
 
Thanks Cath ... I've just emailed him ... :x I feel better now.

This is what I wrote -

"I am so angry at your off the cuff comment about diabetics and doughnuts for breakfast.

I'm a recently diagnosed T2 diabetic, who, over the past 2 decades has been diagnosed with everything BUT what was really wrong with me. What a waste of NHS resources to be treated for a whole host of SYMPTOMS but not be diagnosed with the CAUSE for over 20 years.

I don't drink. I don't smoke and I don't eat doughnuts for breakfast and never have done. But I still got diabetes and had I been diagnosed earlier, I'd have had a good 2 decades without various complications developing and been less of a drain on the NHS. I might still be capable of holding down a decent job, I might still be married and I might still own my own house. But undiagnosed medical conditions lead to health problems and they lead to financial problems.

How do I know that I was misdiagnosed? I know because in just 3 months since diagnosis of diabetes and getting THE RIGHT TREATMENT and support from a forum of diabetics, I feel better than I have for years. Prior to that I was booking my funeral.

And by the way, it's actually potatoes, bread, rice, pasta, etc that my Islets of Langerhans can't cope with.

Apparently, there are thousands of undiagnosed diabetics out there developing severe complications as we speak. Could that be due to ineffective diagnostic criteria and apathy within the NHS regarding changing it.

They're not all fat greedy people who shove doughnuts down their faces for breakfast. Intense hunger is actually one of the many symptoms of diabetes.

Why don't you address the issue of the ridiculous diagnostic criteria for conditions like diabetes and thyroid which actually cost the NHS far more due to incorrect diagnoses and their various treatments? Wrong diagnoses also cause loss of lives. By the way, would cigarette smoking lung cancer patients and alcoholic cirrhosis patients be singled out so disgracefully as diabetics have been. Or do you have to be more careful about insulting them because the Government gets a great wad of tax from flogging alcohol and cigarettes to the general public ... subjecting them to addiction and some awful medical conditions.

Why don't you recommend that the Government acts responsibly in the first place and stops drug pushing to the public? To my knowledge there is no nutritional value whatsoever in cigarettes and alcohol but the addictive chemicals they contain make them a good source of revenue don't they?

I don't think the medical profession knows the first thing about what causes diabetes, they only THINK they know and some of the advice given and comments made to diabetics by health care professionals are totally inappropriate and unwarranted.

If you want to learn more about the real causes of diabetes I suggest you look at this ...

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That website and the people on it SAVED MY LIFE, not the NHS.

Members of this forum are all HUMAN BEINGS living with and learning from the condition and from each other and it's quite possible that some of us know more than our doctors and specialist nurses where diabetes is concerned - we HAVE TO KNOW - because our lives depend on it.

Real professionals realise that learning doesn't stop when you pass an exam or get a pay rise, and listening to PATIENTS is PARAMOUNT.
 
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