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Dr advising against Keto Diet

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by superdave220, Apr 23, 2018.

  1. superdave220

    superdave220 Type 2 · Member

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    Thanks for the clarification. I'm from the US by the way. Are most people on this forum from UK? I'm realizing the A1c numbers here are different from the US.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    There's a mix from all over the world but the majority are UK based I would say. Here the HbA1c is usually represented as mmol/m whereas I believe yours is a percentage? Some UK doctors still use the % model as well just to make it easy!
    Our blood sugar levels are mmol/l whereas yours are of course mg/dl (conversion factor of 18). The US Doc's to watch to for are Greger, McDonald, Fuhrman and Barnard they are often in programs like What the Health and IThrive.
     
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    superdave220 Type 2 · Member

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    Thanks. I guess the numbers in OP didn't make sense to a lot of folks. Sorry everyone! lol

    I've listened to Barnard but not the rest. Is there a doctor or author that you follow for your own Keto Diet or do you just follow your own plan? I've seen some clinical trials for Type 2 Keto programs but they are charge a fee. I'm wondering if I can get same results following a general keto plan myself.
     
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    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    My latest favourite meme on this topic:

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  5. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    My path to keto started with Dr Jason Fung (loads of videos on you tube) there’s also a lot of keto info on www.dietdoctor.com as well as www.ketogenicforums.com which is an offshoot of the 2 keto dudes podcasts (also well worth a listen).
     
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    LouWilk059 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Canada uses % for hba1c and mmol for blood sugar levels.
     
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    #26 LouWilk059, Apr 24, 2018 at 12:31 AM
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  7. Biggles2

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    Keto is absolutely doable outside of a formal program. Try dietdoctor.com for some great recipes.

    Do you use a blood glucose meter to self-test? Also known as 'eating to the meter'. Many of us just ended up eating keto by default as a result of self-testing: nothing like real-time data to understand and eliminate the foods that cause spikes.

    Also, anything by Dr. Jason Fung is well worth a read. Here is a link to one of his blogs from November 2017 to get you started:
    https://idmprogram.com/therapeutic-nutrition-paradigm-21st-century-medicine/

    I don't know where you are in the US but you might be interested in the Ketofest 2018 in New London, CT:
    http://www.thefatemperor.com/blog/2018/2/27/ketofest-2018-launched-today-get-in-there-
     
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    superdave220 Type 2 · Member

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    I do use a blood glucose meter to self-test. I didn't test very frequently before but now I'm testing 3-6 times a day. Do you test for ketones as well? I'm on the fence about whether I should get a ketone meter. Are there signs to look out for when you get knocked out of ketosis? Also is it hard to get back into ketosis once you've been knocked out?

    I'm looking at the Diet Doctor site now. It looks like a great resource! Big thanks to you and bulkbiker for the recommendation!
     
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    superdave220 Type 2 · Member

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    Mongolia Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Have a watch of this TED talk if you haven't seen it before. Well explained and easy to understand
     
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    superdave220 Type 2 · Member

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    That's the first TED talk about Keto and Type2 that I saw. It's so good!
     
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    Quick update. I got a second opinion from a Dr. who is a CDE (certified diabetes educator) and spoke with a RD (registered dietician) who affirmed everything I'm doing with Keto. I'm off of Glipizide for the time being, my sugars are still normal, and I'm feeling great!
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    Wow so there are some sensible voices out there.. well done you for finding them...
     
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    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    What the WFPB folks have in common is they promote whole foods and no sugar. A lot of the carb on that diet is non starchy carbs too. I think that diet could work better than the Standard American Diet but as you say WFPB/veganism its an ideological war against animal fat and there seems to be little evidence that its the (animal) fat that is causing our modern health problems. Interestingly these WFPB docs are just as much against Big Pharma and Big Food as many on this forum might be.
     
  15. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    True there are lots of similarities and there does seem to be evidence that an ultra low fat diet may work as well as an ultra low carb one... but... and for me its a big but.. I just wouldn't stick to it because I love meat too much.
     
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    LooperCat Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I’m part of a couple of vegan keto groups in Facebook, mostly to get non meat ideas (I do eat a little fish bit no cow’s milk) - it can be done but needs a lot more planning than the omnivore variety.
     
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