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Dr Tim Spector

I think he's gone on record as having changed his opinion on various dietary matters. His latest book is very different to his first.
 
I disagree with Tim that Keto only works for a few months. He would be well aware of sites like this, Virta Health etc, which leaves his claims in the wilderness. I posted on the hosts site respectful views contradicting Tim....they were pulled.
 
And I have to say - he personally looks like he good do with some good nutriton himself! Did anyone else think he presented as tired and drawn, in need of the B12 he talked of perhaps? A good steak? I found it quite striking - how tired/listless he looked and sounded. Possibly - even ill.

What he said was pretty good though, for sure. I thought he did say well that long-term keto/low carb for people with diabetes was good.

But the message of quality food and nutrition (apart from him looking like he needed it) came across loud and clear, and goodness knows the forget the calories needs to be broadcast more. Oh yes - and the importance of the gut biome. The effect of medications on our metabolism via the gut and the microbiota we have there. It was interesting to hear him discuss the case that the stomach does not kill off the bulk of probiotics we may be taking. I hope he is right! (I'm not taking any, but I like to think we can do something about that situation that way if needs be). The push for fermented foods all good.

There was indeed not much important he did not talk about - yeah except how nutritionally superlicious meat and seafood/fish is! I know in my own life I talk about how amazing the humble cow-meat (and organs) is with us nutritionally speaking, how it is a true super food and gives us all the nutrients we need. Instead we did get the plug for 30 different plants for diversity - but don't worry - that includes herbs and spices and the beloved coffee. Hmmm.

When I was listening to it, I did think how good as a link it would be to share with my many friends who are principally plant-based food oriented, with meat every now and then, who are interested in nutrition. Many thanks for sharing this.
 
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I'm still getting though it... a bit at a time.
He is now having some meat in his diet.
He's not my favourite food champion (bit too quick to publish) but he does appeal to many so could be a good starting point.
My hubby listened (a miracle in itself) and we might well try the 30 different plants. Should be easy if individual herbs and spices are counted, and quantities are ignored...I have the occasional sole bite of a pear for example :)
I'm looking forward to listening to the rest, have about 25 minutes to go
 
He's getting it from all angles, even the CICO crowd:






I do believe that the microbiome is involved with health status, but "we" should not pretend that eating 30 odd plants is the way to go, when "we" have to industrialise plants to make them edible.



I remember Tim being on one of those TV programs that judge food quality - he was the expert guest, from memory around 6 persons around a table. Nikki Fox had a meat based diet and duly apologised for having it. Persons with Tim's views are existentially dangerous to someone like me, as he would likely be on panels that Government rely on.
 
In the original link on this thread he said he's anti keto because of all the high extra fat, over a protracted length of time. He doesn't seem to differentiate between types or sources of fat and seems to think keto for life means very high amounts of fat every day for ever more.

I for one, found once my bg and weight loss had stabilised I no longer need great quantities of fats.

Like so many others, he makes sweeping generalisations, pronouncing them as scientific fact
 
Even though I think Tim Spector isn't looking the best right now, if that vid was recent, (y'all know I think he needs a good thick steak! The side order of brocolli is optional), (we know he has been getting plenty of plant matter!), I do think about his key message about food quality being essential is essential, these days. When we are talking about his vids and ideas (and books) being good ones to spread around to the general populace/our friends and families, who might be interested in nutrition for life etc, I think it is that essential message we are responding to? That needs to be spoken from the rooftops more. It's a simple but good message. Don't skimp on food quality, if you are weighing up what to spend your resources on! Especially in these inflated inflation times. (Assuming one has the option to weigh up what one spends ones resources on! And that is not a given, even in OECD countries as we know.)

Re the importance of the gut biome - I am of the opinion too, that it is hugely important, and was a missing link for a mighty long time. But why is it only plants that our gut biome feed off? Of course not! In an omnivorous species like us that just doesn't add up. If the humble cow, coming from the not-so humble aurochs, can provide us with every essential vitamin and mineral and lots more besides (thinking of their lovely coats) - why is it left out, not to mention all the other dead critters we thrive on eating, when discussing the healthy gut biome? The healthy human specimen? But left out it consistently is, from my observations. If anyone knows why, apart from for propag... I mean - pro-vegetarian reasons... give me a holler in here! (Wouldn't it be hillarious if you need to eat 30 different plant types to match beef and cow-innards in the nutrition/healthy gut biome department? Which I suspect - could very well be the case.)
 
Just for fun I tried getting to 30 different plants this week. Even on low carb it was easy as he doesn't specify portions and includes herbs and spices.
I reached the target by Wednesday evening.
I included the chilli on my steak, the raspberries I smothered in double cream, the pepper on my scrambled eggs, the garlic and herbs in my roule cream cheese etc etc

Slightly more seriously though, as both a cook and a gardener, I've always thought local and seasonal produce must have benefits for the indigenous population. I don't think its just coincidence that t2 diabetes has exploded over the same time period that we ship most of our food from one side of the world to the other, and shift the populations too.
 
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