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I meant in terms of nutrition. Is it a superior animal product? It seems to be viewed that way.

I find beef less preferrable personally, plus the good stuff (like a decent steak) is expensive, or, as a burger, filled with **** for some reason (apparently it's a legal requirement)
 
I make my own burger from mince with a few herbs and spices.
 
Yes, I think beef is the best food in terms of nutrition. Eggs are pretty good, too.

I have steak for dinner almost every day. Fortunately I live in a place (Alberta, Canada) with high quality beef. Here minced beef ("ground beef" here) has one ingredient: Alberta beef. By my calculations I've spent £9.73 a day on food so far this year - well within my budget.

I picked these up this morning (£12.50 for the two):

 
Envy for all having meat!!
I cant eat meat due to stomach/colon but so wish I could!! Interesting though, as I been thinking about raw food diet for my large dog... she doesnt have gluten/wheat but I'm struggling even with that thought as its vital to get the right balance of raw bones, complete eggs (including shell) and meat and offal and fish without oils once a week too.

Find just handling offal is gross!! But every raw food literature emphasises getting the right balance.

I think this is hugely important with humans too... a varied meat including organs and offal is necessary.

(Sorry to digress to raw food for dogs) but balancing the variety of foods is vital for humans. No different to any diet / eating really... whether vege, or meat only its essential to balance...
 
I can't imagine not being able to eat meat!! I can't eat vegetables, which is fine by me.

I don't think humans (or dogs) need to consume offal. I never eat offal - it's too awful! Muscles have all the nutrition we (and, I suspect, dogs) need. I suspect these "raw food for dogs" people just made that up.

I don't agree that a varied meat diet is necessary. People who eat only beef do fine. People where I live did fine for thousands of years on mostly bison in a fairly harsh climate. I don't agree that lots of extra dietary calcium is necessary. There's enough calcium in regular meat. I am also skeptical that raw meat is better for dogs than cooked meat. I think the main difference between a canine diet and a human diet is that dogs don't need as much fat.

I don't think it's as complicated as you think. It's quite simple: "eat meat, drink water".
 

Thanks. Dog people say it all has to be portioned out to certain ratios..but I just want my girlie healthy!!so a bit stuck.

I did love meat but being hospitalised frequently wasnt worth it. Not been hospitalised from colon/stomach since and now discharged to just annual appointments which is fantastic. On the other hand though, I do have to have childrens iron liquid as veg does not give me enough!! So agree a lot about meat.
 
@donnellysdogs

I feed my two raw food too. Based on the whole prey, so muscle and organs, in proportion, a few veggies to represent stomach contents and meaty bones.

When I was putting their food together myself I got a bit stressed about it (I am happy to make ‘out there’ trials with my own eating, because I can observe and monitor much of my own health, and know when I am feeling great, or worse, or better, or lacklustre). No way will I take those ‘risks’ with my non-verbal dogs, because waiting til their fur or teeth or joints deteriorate to see if I am getting it wrong, is just unacceptable to me.

So now they get their ancestral, raw, human grade, whole prey model food delivered to my door frozen in tubs. Plus raw freeze dried treats and meaty bones.

And I am certain they have a better diet than 99% of the dogs I see about the place. At 3.5 and 5 years old they still have the bright eyes, gleaming fur and horrendous energy levels they had as pups. I’m hoping that this way of eating will keep them that way for years to come!
 

Thank you so much for info. Daisy dog is under Animal hospital in Newmarket as she has an abnormal 3rd eyelid and problems with eyes...
She is also on 1/2 tablet morning and night for allergies... she is wheat/gluten free and at groomers has special shampoo from vets. She will be undergoing allergy testing because this has been ongoing problem. Not just recently say with pollen.

I too have been looking at the frozen raw foods supplied to door. She does at moment have about 80% cooked meat and veg with 20% being kibble. But its me that cooks it as raw needs my way of thinking to adjust to it!

She is my life, my world, my companion. So I think I need to change my attitude to raw.

Thank you so much for your advice on raw!! Unbelievable help here!!-lol!!

Sorry forbsteering off course from meat and water for humans. Thank you for allaying my fears.. now back to viramin C and scurvy???

Massive thanks!!
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Is she healthy now?
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Ha!!

My last girlie had diabetes insipidus and I thiught I jinxed her! As I had diabetes T1.

Feeling double jinxed my latest canine soulmate. I am allerfic to so many things... and blow me down, she is struggling with allergies and eye problems as well... at least my eyes are ok tho! Not jinxed her with eyes!!

She is beautiful and other wise very fit, healthy and still has beautiful coat and teeth and stunning. Without puriton though she scratches and chews constantly. Especially on mats in other peoples homes or training.... even artificial fibres seem to irritate her. Fortunately at home there are no carpets or mats or rugs and I am not really wishing for her to have to go tgeough allergy testing if I can avoid it for her. I will have to get a big label round her.. do not feed me!- as so many people like to give her treats... and I know some are giving gravy biscuits... so needing to ask people not to give her treats as well! She loves people so they do like to give treats when they give to their own dogs!!

She is very active and rarely stops for sleeps!! Just that something is irritating her skin and eyes...
 
Yes, it pretty well rocked my nutrition-world when I realised, through reading, that there is no science based evidence actually, for the 5-a-day 'rule' on fruit and vegetable eating. The evidence doesn't exist! Apparently. Just the same as it was for eggs. It's one of those "everyone knows" things, once the state-autorised info system got stuck into it, so yeah, in all likelihood - wrong!

Ditto the that 'fibrous food' is not necessary either! That was a double-deal shock. (Fat and meat does the trick too.)

I have found in my social-wanderings that you have to be careful who and when and where you tell folks this, because if we think the 'carbohydrates are not necessary' line is shocking to many - the 'fruit and vegetables are not necessary' can get you some very funny looks! Not that that should have any bearings on a way of eating, but you know how it is.

I am very admiring of folks, like NoCarbs4me, and now Brunneria, who can transit to meat-only (and eggs and dairy to varying degrees) so well. I can do periods of it, but as yet, find it the most challenging 'restricted diet' I have tried so far. (Longest is 5 days. Mostly I do it for three days every now and then.) Going Paleo, then LCHF/keto some years ago was a piece of p*** compared to going meat-eggs-dairy only! for me. I have come to the conclusion it is due to common garden-variety carb-addiction reasons. Too sad! I didn't think I would find it really difficult to maintain, and was very surprised that I found it so hard. (I love meat and am a big meat eater.)

The really good things about it is it is easy to do food planning and prep! It is very easy to eat to satiation. And I don't understand worrying about not having enough fat on a meat only plan. Steak with fat. Pork with fat, lamb chops with fat, etc etc. Skin on chook. (ie the opposite of what we were told to eat, and not eat.) I think you have to try hard NOT to have fat with meat. I eat fried up fat from meat now the way I used to eat candy. Yummy!

And the best thing is meat-eggs-(or and dairy)-only emulates, or exhibits, lovely effects on blood glucose control. Looks mighty close to what happens when you don't eat any food at all for a period of days. Which makes sense for us, as it's close to zero carb. Extremely low insulin response and glucose response, whilst being full, whilst being well nourished. Mighty good effect.

 
What do you mean by balance
 
Sounds great but
Sounds great but unfortunately way more than I can afford
 
ghost_whistler said:
What do you mean by balance
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Merely balancing food and life.. not so much the food but with life and own individuals.. so if meat chosen... the right varietys for you as an individual, if someone has to fast during day times, as with certain religions etc... and including budgets that persons can afford, what ever choices are made has to be the right variety for not only our health but our own individual selves too.
 
Right but the problem when people say 'you need a balanced diet' is that it's fallacious. What you need is to eat the right food, which, as science is increasingly discovering, isn't a mix from every type or group of food available.

Of course people can't eat beyond their means, as I've just discovered today having found Tesco no longer selling the affordable chicken I've been eating for months. Finding a suitable affordable replcement won't be easy since the nearest alternative is twice the price!
 
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