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Discussion in 'Prediabetes' started by Jared1, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. Jared1

    Jared1 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the 50 shades refer - I checked it out definitely helps make sense of what some of the numbers people on here go about!

    Yes very low cal compared to what was eating before, I just kind of think to the future for example today had carrots, guessing 10g/100 carb - if not on low cal might have twice as much then obiously would be twice the carbs. I'm guessing they would be much better carb than say the pasta or something worse like mcdonalds I would have had in the past - it was pretty common to have a big Mac combo a quater pounder and a cheese burger for dinner, some lollies biscuits or chips after that at some stage and take a bottle of fizzy to bed to drink in the night when woke up I was prob 2500 cal just for dinner /evening before!

    I've found even on low carb I actully feel better - I used to struggle to stay awake in the afternoon but don't seem to now - can only put that down to better nutrition really - and now I'm used eating this way (healthy things) I feel I've kicked a sugar /carb addiction really- but I just don't even look to those things as a option now and frankly don't really miss them- don't want to risk trying to see if I do!

    With exercise is actully easier than used to be - it's fair to say I'm never going to be a active out doors person but I'm feel pretty good if I get 10min exercycle after each meal and a 30-45 min fast walk with the dog most days-that's what I class as exercise (on top of running around with a toddler most days) - don't really feel hungry or lacking - my weak time is when sit down infront of tv-even then I'm only tempted to eat out of boardum not hunger - I'm really hope that the kgs don't come back to easy after the diet and was planning on increasing cal by couple hundred every month till get to a maintenance stage - by then in hope will be at a healthy weight.

    Atm doc said by what I'm losing in in ketosis or something, didint say was a bad thing so I'll roll with that for now

    BTW congrats on your weight loss - it's definitely no easy thing esp if the weight was a symptom not a cause! But if a pity when really love food though if have to portion control your favourite things - but hay if that's what you like is allot better than not having them at all right!
     
  2. AloeSvea

    AloeSvea Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Jared1 - you are a testament to good getting-rid-of-prediabetes practice!

    I wouldn't worry about the carrots though :). When it comes to burgers with blood glucose dysregulation it's the bun, and the sugar-laden sauces and sugar soaked food like the beetroot and the gherkins, not the other ingredients (meat, salad, dairy if dairy tolerant), that is the problem for us. Eat salad to your heart's content, is what I would say! And if you keep being lower carb in your life (in order to keep diabetes free) - that is going to be a big enough challenge in your diet! Ditto a pizza - it's not the ingredients on top, but the actual pizza base that has the potential to overload your poor old cells with glucose. It's not the cheese but the toast, on cheese on toast. That's how it goes.

    I am really pleased you are feeling good on the low carbs (and not eating very much as well - wow!). This is good news for your future health indeed.

    You are very kind about the weight loss - but I have to say that going lower-to-low carb is what does that. And I can't be sufficiently skinny to be in that lovely glowing green zone, alas. (I am confident about what I would need to do to be in the green zone due to a LOT of experimentation. But as I said, I have had lots of insulin resistance for a very long time.) I truly wish I didn't have to be super lean, as that is awfully hard, as in I haven't been able to maintain that. But that seems to be the case for me.

    Your exercise regime seems super active to me! And I thought I was good, lol. The exer-cycle after meals is super duper for sure. (Good idea.)

    I hear you on the sugar addiction. I talk about this with my partner, especially in the kitchen and as you say in front of the tele - a lot! :). Especially now I seem to have activated a sugar longing (and for **** food like salsa chips - my partner's favourite) from obviously too long on the Xmas food thing. I guess it's like any common garden variety addiction - be careful if you fall off the wagon! It can be mighty hard getting back on it. I do remember this being the case last post Xmas too, and am using fake sweetened food and drink to wean myself off the high carb longings. And good and yummy low-carb substitutes. But as I have written elsewhere recently in the forum about this - it does give me a healthy respect for sugar addiction. know thy enemy and all that.

    And yeah, my usual anti-diabetes diet is very tasty (I am dairy tolerant - thank goodness! Cheese, and whipped cream goes a very, very long way in my normal diet.) (And I say that stevia is nothing short of a life-saver for sweet tooth me.)

    What an amazing doctor you have! To know about and talk to you about ketosis? Very impressive. I love my doctor, as we have a great mutually respectful relationship, but she sure doesn't talk ketosis! Ketosis is sure not a bad thing - it's your body being in fat-burning mode and not sugar burning mode to get your energy. The physical activity providing a great pathway for the excess sugar to get into your muscles for energy and out of your blood, veins and organs. Very very good for blood glucose regulation getting better regulated.

    You are inspiring me to get on my bike today, and take advantage of the cooller cloud coverage :).
     
  3. Jared1

    Jared1 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your encouragement- is a great motivator! It's funny you bring up pizza I used to love it and speaking of pizza and temptation I've attached a photo that I took in my front garden- guess what I can smell every time I open the windows or doors!!
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    The doctor is great really - although sometimes I'm a bit iffy about their advice they definitely keep on top of me - she makes me keep a food diary and come in every week (for free as follow up with either gp or nurse) to basicly check my progress- check exercise and diet and kick my ass if not sticking to the program- been doing that 5 weeks now and must say that's prob the biggest thing is knowing that someone is checking in on you to keep you in line-makes one think twice about making bad decisions! Id say now that good practice is just a habit now though.

    I hear you about addiction- sadly I've had a few bad ones (illicit) in the past- very hard to break when in it even when you know it's no good - clean for some years now just had to make the break - deal with hard times and come out the other side better off- that's how I've looked at sugar /carbs - just another harmful substance that I'm better off without basicly - once give up a addiction it's like seeing the light you couldint see before and I'm kind of finding it the same with food atm.

    Yea please do get out on your bike! If I had a proper bike I would prob ride it all the time - boaring on a exercycle! So hopefully that will motivate you to use it knowing there's someone that dosint have one that would use it if did - besides its good forced exercise, at home I can just get off a exercycle any time - but with a push bike the further you go your kind of forced to ride all way back home even if don't want to lol
     
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    Well, alas, it seems life and housework (and a bit of rain) interfered with the bike plans @Jared1 ! But it was a great idea while it lasted!

    I have been toying with the idea of getting an exer-cycle too, after reading about your post-meal indoor rides (which make a lot of good health sense.)

    And pizza - you are not alone in that lure. Love the pic! (And the pic of you and young one.) (I keep meaning to replace my tin for a lovely growing aloe or stevia plant! But I am currently beset with device problems.) Thankfully so shared is the love of pizza the internet is riddled with low-carb pizza recipes (as it is all about the base), and all you have to do is start experimenting till you find the one that does it for you (and your family I guess! Although I have to admit my daughter and partner eat the usual one and leave me to eat my favourite low carb version on my own.) The most popular seems to be the guy's who made the 'Fathead' doco (which has some good animation food and health sequences in it). So - the fathead pizza, or versions of it, if you want to look it up online.

    Your doctor and practice story is a very nice one indeed. Gives me hope!
     
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    Jared1 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    @AloeSvea - so just getting back to you about results got to day - rung them first thing since been putting in so much work- so last test (think it's hba1c) was 49 and after just over a month (so still including 2 bad months really) today I'm down to 39.

    Would be interesting to know what the reading for just the one month would be but guess I'll just have to wait bit longer for the longer term results.

    Guess just goes to show a bit of hard work can make quite a difference in a short time.

    Is quite funny the doctors actully thank me and say it's really great when they see people actully doing what they should be - guessing is a pretty hard thing for some to turn around and they generally see a decline in state of health-they still want to see me weekly for a while and I suppose they like helping people who help themselves!
     
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    AloeSvea Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    @Jared1 - this is GREAT news indeed. And I am not surprised of course! :).

    Keep up the very good low-carbing work, and keep the dreaded insulin resistance at bay!

    (Sorry I haven't been in here for ages - was out and about on the road, with a sick laptop. Gratefully having respite from the heatwave back at home, and my laptop is back, happy and well. Yay!)
     
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    Jared1 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    @AloeSvea - yes the heat has been horrible I don't deal with it well especially at nights fan on Windows open still rolling around not getting good sleep so I'm glad it's a bit more bareable temp now!

    Yea you been gone ages! Wondered were you gone!

    And yup still keeping it up every day here - it's kind of just the way things are now not so much of a mission.

    Count every carb now - has about 2 days that I've got up to 40 something g but in general I'm well under 25 a day.

    Not weighed self for about 2 weeks and last time was right on 88 so got to be less than that - pretty happy since in December was over 100!

    Like I say I don't see progress as a excuse to slip any- it's just a new way of how I roll now don't even think would want to go back to way was - call it enlightenment or something lol
     
  8. AloeSvea

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    Yes, it is great to be home and with my laptop working, yet again. And it is nice and cool today with breezes and rain - whew.

    Enlightenment sounds wonderful!

    I haven't regained the weight I lost at the beginning of my post-diagnosis regime (about 15-20kg), due to low-carbing. Just to give you a thumbs up on the likelihood of you keeping yours off! Just some fluctuations during experimentations, trying to get out of the insulin resistant/intermediate hyperglycemia zone altogether. I'm one of these people who could probably kick the hyperglycemia - if only I could be as skinny as I was in my youth! And that is very very hard for me to be that skinny. As in - I have not been able to get lean enough and keep it off. And I have sure tried. So here I am at intermediate hyperglycemia level, a stuck gauge sitting in the prediabetes zone, as it were.

    I keep an eye on, not my weight, but my waist circumference, and use the height-waist ratio as the number to really be my red flag on insulin resistance. I believe I have a very insulin resistant liver due to data from experimentations and BG meter readings. So it makes sense for me to watch the fat on my middle, and therefore those key organs re T2D so closely. I sit just under the danger zone, at .47-.49 (the boundary is .50 of which anything on or above that indicates danger especially for carbohydrate intolerant/insulin resistant folk). The good thing, and the sad thing, is after, for me, four plus years with diabetes and prediabetes, I have such a close relationship with how my blood glucose regulation works! (or more to the point - doesn't work.) Ah dear. Sigh. And all that.

    But still, very very lovely to read of quick success stories like yours. And, I imagine, your blood glucose regulation will only get better as you go the low-carb 'lifestyle'. And, again, it is very happy news to read of your very supportive medical professionals/doctor.
     
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