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Erratic Readings

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Hi All/ New member, type 2 on Lantus once a day and Metformin since 2006 Male aged 71 good BMI.
For last year I have had difficulty controlling my readings in spite of doing everything my diabetes nurse advised. Currently my BG is mainly ok before breakfast but always in double figures up to 21 at all other times. (up to 5 readings a day.
I asked if I could try Victoza but was told it was only for obese people.
Has anybody had a similar experience?
 
If your levels are that high it makes me wonder what sort of diet you have ? Type of food you are eating etc.
 
Hi Thanks for reading and reply. Diet has been advised by diabetic diatian. I stick religiously to this and record all meals and get D Nurses overview. The whole situation is extremely worrying not because I feel ill ,but my last HbA1c was 9 and this excludes me from an operation that I was hoping to get.Apart from changing to an alternative to Insulin I do not Know what to do.
 
I see. Have a look at the advice Sue and I regularly post here when advising Newly Diagnosed Diabetic's. You will see it doesn't always tally with the standard NHS advice in places.

I have been T2 for nearly 14 years......during that time I religiously followed the NHS dietary advice.

Doing that nearly killed me and caused me all sorts of complications. It just didn't work for me. A change to a diet that was good for me soon reversed all the complications, had weight dropping off me and my Bg levels are all well controlled. :D

Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, Diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce
are the complex or starchy Carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of Insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause Insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting Carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.


When you are buying products check the total Carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a Diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the Nurse/Doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own Diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try !!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.
Ken / Sue.
 
Many thanks for most helpful advice. I will try cutting out potato and bread and gauge the effects. Fingers crossed that this will assist. Regards Mervyn
 
Cheers Mervyn. :D

Try cutting things out gradually, take your time unless you want to 'go for broke'....it can take a little time to get used to a different way of eating, persevere......it's well worth it ! :)
 
hya mervyn and welcome,
cugila is spot on in what he says :D
 
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