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EU - In or Out + Poll.

EU: Leave, stay or undecided?

  • Leave

    Votes: 83 42.3%
  • Stay

    Votes: 101 51.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 12 6.1%

  • Total voters
    196
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That's my point! That's why I said we shouldn't have been given the vote! And as I have said earlier if you don't know, then you don't vote or you should vote for the status quo, not change for change sake. Like I said, I am very upset by the idiots targeting minorities and I'm out of this thread now.
 
No farms near me unfortunately. Generally buy milk from local Co-Op, which is from British farms though.

That's the issue.
You're paying the supermarket price, and the farmer is still not seeing your money.
It's no use commenting they are underpaid, if you don't support them.
But when there is no competition, and they supply the only milk in the UK, it will be interesting to see if they support you back.
Who knows, maybe the Milk Marketing Board will make a comeback,
 

I disagree, my local area is strongly conservative and has been for years. There was absolutely no way of my vote counting.
No I don't like being called vermin any more than I like being called racist, stupid and ignorant.
 
I can just feel the heat from this thread - very passionate arguments but no real concessions from either side and the debate will go on and on for a while. We will exit the EU two years after Chapter 50 is enacted. No Government of any political persuasion would ever dream of defying a referendum result. I was on the losing side of the 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum and just had to swallow the result with dignity. If the result had been YES to Independence and the Westminster Government had overturned it there no doubt would have been rioting and major social unrest in Scotland.
 

It almost sounds as though you would you be happier if I said I bought French! How can I support local farms if there aren't any? All I can do is make sure I am buying British. It is surely better to buy British than French even if it is via supermarkets.
 

I'm merely pointing out you're paying the same price as you would to buy french milk.
I'm wondering if it will stay the same if we decide to stop importing, on the principle 'they need to sell, we don't need to buy, we're be self sufficient' that you said?
As I said, I'm wondering who needs who the more?
But it's not a problem, as you will also be happy to pay more to UK farmers, I was wondering if all the other 'outs' would be as well.
 
It should come as no surprise surely that a tiny minority of fascists are using the 'Leave' vote victory to assume that the majority of the rest of the country also support their racist views and actions. They now think that their actions are vindicated because in their eyes this is what everyone else also wants. I know this isn't the case but this is how the far right will now be thinking.
 

Sadly, it's not just the teenagers. It's the rather large numbers of others too. And of course on a subject like this one, however you dress it up, the gamble you have just made is huge and the consequences unknown. That's not an indication of wisdom.


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Yes but at least if you buy British then some money will go to British farmers.
I am optimistically hoping that trade will still take place with EU. I don't believe the UK wants to stop trading and therefore will not have the aforementioned principle.
Most people I know and certainly my household, would be happy to pay more for British milk if the farmers received the money.
 
I disagree, my local area is strongly conservative and has been for years. There was absolutely no way of my vote counting.
No I don't like being called vermin any more than I like being called racist, stupid and ignorant.

You mentioned "Coop" earlier. I used to work for em.
The day of the last "royal wedding" I was covering a shift at my local store. (A colleague wanted the day off to celebrate.)
One woman of a certain age came in about mid morning? for a few last minute supplies...
As I checked her goods through the scanner, she enquired if I was watching the wedding. "Alas", I exclaimed. "Unfortunately n...."

I was cut short by her barracking "maybe you prefer Saddam Hussein running this country??!!"
I was gobsmacked, but kept smiling..

Still.. She was glad we were open for her tea cakes & milk..
 
Oh my days, there is no denying there are some truly mad people out there!
 

Crikey brings back memories I worked for the coop as a teenager in the holidays and got a full time job a few years later

I loved working for the coop a lot less stressful than the NHS
 

If you want to believe the European press, then what is happening here in the UK is happening all over Europe and some parts of the World
 
He'll go for sure at the same time as Cameron, returning to the back benches as we get a right wing cabinet and PM....God help us


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Sadly for us the Labour party have also disappeared down a black hole
 

No we don't agree with their right wing view it was used as a look we are still out here how about coming and seeing how the real world looks, we voted and now they are paying the price its about time they came out of the Westminster bubble.
 
Sadly for us the Labour party have also disappeared down a black hole

It does seem the nuclear option of a new general election in November, following the investiture of the new Conservative leader, could see Labour decimated, perhaps returning as a few as 70 seats.

This would establish the frightening prospect of a one party (Conservative) nation for at least a generation. That party without counter balance within parliament would be a nightmare.


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I agree totally. Even though I never have been a Labour supporter Corbyn has to go so the party can re-build. No party can govern effectively without an effective opposition.
 

And with no pesky EU to watch over them, no Human Rights, no accountability other than to themselves.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
Corbyn is as unelectable as Michael Foot was in the 80's yet to the hard left he is their saviour but IMO I could never vote Labour with him in charge

Scotland is lost to Labour anyway
 

Well Kevin, it is very early days at the moment but I have been in contact with a couple of brexit labour MP's to basically poke my toe in the water around this issue. I have not as yet had any response (I don't expect to get any for a while) but over on Facebook the idea of a Labour (UK) party does appear to have some support from some of my friends the suggestion is to look at the Labour party of the 1950's and start from there.

I dont know if it will work but if it does you guys will be among the first to know.
 
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