Well Kevin, it is very early days at the moment but I have been in contact with a couple of brexit labour MP's to basically poke my toe in the water around this issue. I have not as yet had any response (I don't expect to get any for a while) but over on Facebook the idea of a Labour (UK) party does appear to have some support from some of my friends the suggestion is to look at the Labour party of the 1950's and start from there.
I dont know if it will work but if it does you guys will be among the first to know.
@tim2000s No one knows everything. No one who voted either way professed to know everything about the issue. People just voted in what they believed in. It's a bit patronising to say people who voted leave didn't grasp the issues and just played Russian roulette at the polling station. Change is unknown and people pray on those who want change with fear of the the unknown. At his inaugural speech President Franklin D. Roosevelt said "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Apt words from the only US President elected for 3 terms and a great leader who rebuilt the US from the depression of the 1930's.Sadly, it's not just the teenagers. It's the rather large numbers of others too. And of course on a subject like this one, however you dress it up, the gamble you have just made is huge and the consequences unknown. That's not an indication of wisdom.
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@tim2000s No one knows everything. No one who voted either way professed to know everything about the issue. People just voted in what they believed in. It's a bit patronising to say people who voted leave didn't grasp the issues and just played Russian roulette at the polling station. Change is unknown and people pray on those who want change with fear of the the unknown. At his inaugural speech President Franklin D. Roosevelt said "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself". Apt words from the only US President elected for 3 terms and a great leader who rebuilt the US from the depression of the 1930's.
Not midway and he would have been elected sooner if it hadn't been for the fact Hoover ran out his fixed 4 year term. Instead of splitting hairs and being picky try and pick apart the rest of my argument.Roosevelt came in midway through the depression, until, the start of WW2 ended it.
Who knows, maybe our next PM can have the same role in history.
Not midway and he would have been elected sooner if it hadn't been for the fact Hoover ran out his fixed 4 year term. Instead of splitting hairs and being picky try and pick apart the rest of my argument.
You haven't made one point and are just a sour puss. You won't agree with any of my points so move on to stringing someone else along.You didn't have one.
You still don't, it's just jingoistic national pride, vote for sovereignty, and forget the economics.
Why don't you correct your mistake then, I can be petty.Roosevelt came in midway through the depression, until, the start of WW2 ended it.
Who knows, maybe our next PM can have the same role in history.
I've made enough points and no longer debating (if you can call it that) with those who disagree with the referdum result. I am not being brought down to the level of those opposing the result. I am not worried, going to chill and not be tempted into being Clinically Depressed or suffer from an anxiety disorder with all the fearmongering going on. Bye and have a nice day !
Its a very sad consequence of Brexit. Suddenly its fine to be racist and its deeply depressing to follow latest news. '**** you' painted across front door of Polish Cultural Centre in West London or 'No more Polish Vermin' cards in Cambridgeshire.@eddie1968 That's very true, however, there is also the slight point about the far right and racism coming to the fore, which was predicted.
Since the vote, friends of our's Polish cleaner has been verbally racially abused, and pelted with eggs and tomatoes. She has decided that she doesn't want to live in this country anymore (unsurprisingly) and is leaving for Spain. No matter how you look at it, a majority vote for a position that, in the popular mind, was about immigration, has, as far as these people are concerned, exonerated their views and they are being more vocal with them as they see them as accepted by "the majority" of the British public.
However you look at it, voting out has released a very nasty element in our society, rather than constrained it.
There is a difference between fear and consequences. Understanding what was likely to happen is not fear, it's simply a risk assessment. It seems that more than 50% of those who voted assess risks very differently from the others.
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TIM2000 I expect better from a moderator on this forum you cannot just generalise all 16+million people as being racist's that is more than just offense to me
So do I @ewelina, and if I hear one more Leaver say "Well I'm not racist" there is only one answer.
You are responsible. You voted with them. No matter what your personal view. However unpalatable that might be now.
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He didn't. He said all leave voters voted with the racists. That's a fact.TIM2000 I expect better from a moderator on this forum you cannot just generalise all 16+million people as being racist's that is more than just offense to me
Its a very sad consequence of Brexit. Suddenly its fine to be racist and its deeply depressing to follow latest news. '**** you' painted across front door of Polish Cultural Centre in West London or 'No more Polish Vermin' cards in Cambridgeshire.More and more stories across various social media http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...e-triggers-spike-in-hate-crimes-a3281951.html
Where are the British values we teach children at schools? I hope its not the end of it
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