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Type 2 Exercise

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by woollygal, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. LittleGreyCat

    LittleGreyCat Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't work for everyone.
    I have DP which extends to noon or later at times.

    I start each day with coffee, cream and butter so minimal carbs.
    Despite this my BG still climbs.

    If I exercise, especially multiple hours on a bicycle, the BG can go even higher and faster.

    I'm still trying to explain this, but I suspect that when I start to exercise my liver releases glucose (as expected).
    However when I am keto adapted I am not burning glucose, but burning ketones, so the glucose tends to hang around instead of being burned off.
    I suspect that there is some sort of abnormal glucagon response going on which is encouraging the release of glucose from the liver but inhibiting the release of insulin from the pancreas.

    After noon the insulin seems to kick in and my BG then comes back down again more or less as one would expect.

    I must say that I'm not convinced that a square of cheese would halt a liver dump in my case.

    As a general point I think that the glucose/insulin response is different when you are fully keto adapted and not using glucose as your primary fuel source.
     
  2. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    It was Paul Saladino's latest podcast.

    Yeah don't get me wrong HbA1c is useful. I just personally think it is overrated if used as the sole indicator of metabolic health. It largely reflects average glucose in the majority, but in some individuals it can be way off. But hey I'm a bit weird like that - for T2 I even think that blood glucose is overrated. All-body glucose (the overflow hypothesis) and circulating insulin (not too much) is what I'm interested in. Blood glucose is just the symptom.

    But we're at risk of going way off topic now! I don't know if you follow Saladino but the latest podcast mentioned above is primarily about the reversal of early diagnosis T1. I linked to it earlier today in the Carnivore Corner thread if you're interested;

    https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/carnivore-corner.164920/page-21#post-2136099
     
    #22 Jim Lahey, Sep 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM
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  3. NicoleC1971

    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the podcast tip. I will load him up as I am certainly interested in beta cell preservation lest any of my kids get the type 1 curse!
    I too wish that other tests could be used as to a doctor treating type 2 blood sugar is the nail that they are always trying to hammer/
     
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  4. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I just added a link to my post above.
     
  5. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    How did you arrive at that figure?
     
  6. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Expert
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    @Cana - My suggestion, if you want to really see what happens relating to exercise (and/or other factors), would be to invest in a couple of Libre sensors. Wearing a Libre sensor for two weeks (or as many multiples of 2 weeks as you choose), and scanning it with a compatible phone, will give you much, much more information that you can ever hope to garner using finger prick testing.
     
  7. woollygal

    woollygal Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. Good idea. Just don’t really want to spend any money!

    I’m not overly concerned I just did t want to get really low sugars by diet then ruin it be exercising if it’s pushing figured up. But don’t think it is.
    Woke up in 5s this morning which is unusual and was 5s all day yesterday
     
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