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Extended fasting

Jamesuk9 said:
Oh and I'm also sleeping much better, managed to go a full seven hours last night until the alarm clock at 7 without waking up for a slash. For years I'd wake every hour or 3 and never felt completely rested.
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It is surprising how much difference you can make to your health by eliminating or reducing foods that should be good for you.
I have discovered that foods that inhibit insulin response are the best for me!
Sleep is so important to recovery from ill health! Regardless of how severe the condition is!
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Diagnosis of diabetes will NEVER be made on a high fasting level alone. That went out of the window years ago. It is always followed up with an HbA1c, and if necessary a second HbA1c a couple of weeks later, or an oral glucose tolerance test. All this before diagnosis. So no need to worry on that score.

Often for many people it isn't necessary to eat breakfast, but best to have something fatty such as a coffee with cream or a lump of cheese dipped in mayo, which should stop any liver dump in its tracks, and then have some sort of lunch and then evening meal. No need for supper.
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Yes, thanks for that. I now recall my doctor saying to me that there was a time you would have been diagnosed on that fasting level but your a1c says otherwise.

I've also worked out today that I start to rise after the 8th hour or thereabouts. Which would explain why if I eat between 10 and 11pm and then get up at 7 I'm still in low 5s on my meter.

Same thing happened today, I was on it with the meter all day and figured it out. I had 10g carb yogurt at 7.30 and after the first hour was in decline until around 2pm before the climb.

These meters are invaluable.
 
OK you have solved it all yourself.

Have some supper, a few carbs.
As soon as you get up have a coffee and double cream or cheese and mayo
Have lunch
Have evening meal
 
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Jamesuk9 said:
Yes, I have noticed that. Even something small halts the rise and sends it back south for a while. Little and often could be sustainable for me.
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when I was T 2 something small, fatty and vlc always did the tick. Sometimes just a mushroom or piece of celery dipped in mayo was enough. Or a few nuts. You can keep nuts in your pocket haha. Anything that brings in a little insulin without raising bs. I used to be a grazer and only ate dinner. Worked great until it didn't. Darn genes.....
Now I eat a few nuts or a bite of sausage before bed as well or fasting is higher. Not sure if you drink alcohol, and if you dont, don't start, but a shot of chilled citron vodka ( or any distilled liquor) before bed definitely lowers my fasting and gives me a restful sleep.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
OK you have solved it all yourself.

Have some supper, a few carbs.
As soon as you get up have a coffee and double cream or cheese and mayo
Have lunch
Have evening meal
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Yes, I think I have worked out some good things today. 10g carb first thing in the morning raised me 1.5 this morning but 10g this afternoon only raised it 0.2. Clearly a bigger problem first thing. I was drinking green tea every morning but that didn't affect anything. It seems I am more tolerant of carbs later in the day, whichever would tie in with my lifetime of not eating until evening. Autonomous system needs retraining maybe, if that's even possible. Can but try.
 
Yep, cut the morning carbs. I can't eat any carbs before lunch. Just have fat or fat with protein. Green tea is useless as you need fat to stem the liver dump. We are all better with carbs later in the day because we have more insulin sensitivity then.
 
MOST of us are very carb sensitive/insulin resistant in the morning and gain sensitivity as the day goes on.
I eat half an avocado for bf but nuts or cheese ( love mayo!!) or coffee with cream , small slice of deli meat, a bite of sausage etc works well for some. It does not need to be a meal, just something to wake up insulin. I can't do dairy but sure wish I could. Fills nice gaps.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Yep, cut the morning carbs. I can't eat any carbs before lunch. Just have fat or fat with protein. Green tea is useless as you need fat to stem the liver dump. We are all better with carbs later in the day because we have more insulin sensitivity then.
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Off the subject briefly but I love your posts on everything. Just wanted to share that. We seem to think very much alike...in my mind anyway haha

Which mayo do you use? I found a non gmo expeller pressed canola ( better than soy for me) that's is delishous. I make all kinds of 'dips and dressings' with it. Love horseradish or spicy sauces mixed in. I have always been a mayo junky, all my life!!
 
Little and often then, i love nuts but never eat enough, almond is high fat? And no carbs before lunch. Sounds like a plan, I could manage a slice of bacon and an egg at lunchtime I reckon and leave any carbs until evening when I'm clearly more tolerant of them.
 
This all now is starting to make sense. All my adult life I've hated eating in the mornings, cereal always left me feeling sick. Yet I never had the same problem with the same cereals at night time.
 
Jamesuk9 said:
This all now is starting to make sense. All my adult life I've hated eating in the mornings, cereal always left me feeling sick. Yet I never had the same problem with the same cereals at night time.
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Your body does know what it likes and dislikes.. we just have to learn to listen. Something a lot of people have forgotten how to do unfortunately. Me included for the last 40 odd years..
 
bulkbiker said:
Your body does know what it likes and dislikes.. we just have to learn to listen. Something a lot of people have forgotten how to do unfortunately. Me included for the last 40 odd years..
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I was just thinking earlier on. The govt and WHO are in chaos over the impending diabetes epidemic.

If meters were made available to all, esp the many who over the years go to the doctors complaining of GI issues just to be told they have ibs by default. Meters would enable everyone to work out from themselves exactly what foods are harming them.

Ambitious and pie in the sky maybe but the billions that would be saved by health organisations worldwide would far outweigh any cost and prevent the misery it causes for the families that aren't so lucky.

I know for sure that fingers crossed, I can now do my very best to reign it in by meter and pray that my intuition may just save me from the inevitable diagnosis that would have followed if I hadn't bothered.

I'm lucky I guess that I found out by chance I had insulin resistance whilst still at an a1c of 5.6.

Starting to look on the bright side a bit now, there are many in much worst predicament than me when they find out.
 
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