Eyes - not diagnosed

Bulmanboi

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Morning everyone ,

Hoping for some advice , I've not been diagnosed with diabetes but have appointment with the GP tomorrow , only reason I suspect I have it is I have developed floaters in my eyes over the last few weeks , my nan and uncle also have type 2 diabetes.

Any advice or susggestions ?

Slightly worried as eye sight is incredibly important and was checked in October all seemed ok
 

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You are doing the right thing by discussing your concerns with your doctor. "Floaters" are not normally the first sign on diabetes, so you should not jump to conclusions at this stage.
General advice: Irrespective of any diabetes diagnosis, keep your sugar intake as low as you can, that is avoid or keep to a minimum, sugary drinks, cakes, biscuits, puddings, jams and such like. This will assist with all round health and may help avoid a future diabetes diagnosis.
If you do get a diabetes diagnosis, do come back here, there's loads of advice. Good luck tomorrow,
Sally
 

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Floaters are usually a part of the aging process and are usually harmless. However, a sudden increase in floaters accompanied by flashing lights can indicate something more serious and should be investigated promptly. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Floaters/Pages/Causes.aspx I suggest seeing your optician.

Floaters are not diagnostic of diabetes although someone with advanced diabetes may get small bleeds into the vitreous which can appear as floaters. This is very unlikely to occur in someone who has not been diagnosed with diabetes as it takes years to reach this stage. https://patient.info/health/vitreous-haemorrhage-leaflet
 

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Thanks guys , my concern is I have had it for a while but it's never been noticed , I have chromed disease so I'm worried it could have been hiding behind that!

GP tomorrow and optician booked for Saturday , might even go private as the worry is killing me!
 

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It is easy to say don't worry too much so I won't. But please, don't panic, you are doing the right thing by getting theses things investigated. One battle at a time and try not to think of the worst case scenario.

Fingers firmly crossed for you. Good luck.
 
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@Bulmanboi

Hello Bulmanboi and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members, hoping you are not going to need it, and I hope you will find it useful if you do need it. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be pleased to reply.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Hi @Bulmanboi .. and welcome
I had my first eye sreening a few weeks ago (everything OK) but about a month before this I developed a floater in my right eye. I asked the DB optician about this and she told me that it was nothing to do with my diabetes and that many people experienced the same thing. It was of no clinical significance and nothing to worry about (her words)

Putting that to one side, though, If you should be diagnosed when you see your Doc, you have certainly made a good move coming here. I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that you have already received your welcome info from @ daisy1 and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she has sent you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 (you don't pay VAT) or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them. Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them
Hope this helps
 

Bulmanboi

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Hi @Bulmanboi .. and welcome
I had my first eye sreening a few weeks ago (everything OK) but about a month before this I developed a floater in my right eye. I asked the DB optician about this and she told me that it was nothing to do with my diabetes and that many people experienced the same thing. It was of no clinical significance and nothing to worry about (her words)

Putting that to one side, though, If you should be diagnosed when you see your Doc, you have certainly made a good move coming here. I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

The key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that you have already received your welcome info from @ daisy1 and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she has sent you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 (you don't pay VAT) or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them. Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them
Hope this helps


Thank you very much
 

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Hi @Bulmanboi ..
Your doc will tell you if you are diabetic .. if not, then you are perfectly entitled to explain that you are concerned because of your family history and ask. All that can happen is that you will know one way or the other after your appointment .. and if you are diagnosed, your are already in the right place here ..
 

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I'm not entirely sure how to tag you in these messages but thank you again !!

I was hoping it would be the case that they would tell me there and then, I'm hoping to not be referred elsewhere to be told if I have diabetes or not ?
 

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Some of the more experienced members will correct me if I'm wrong, but it might be worth fasting from now 10pm ish, until you see your Dr as I think I'm right in saying that a fasting blood test is more useful than one at a random time after you've eaten.
 

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Morning everyone ,

Hoping for some advice , I've not been diagnosed with diabetes but have appointment with the GP tomorrow , only reason I suspect I have it is I have developed floaters in my eyes over the last few weeks , my nan and uncle also have type 2 diabetes.

Any advice or susggestions ?

Slightly worried as eye sight is incredibly important and was checked in October all seemed ok
Welcome to the forum @Bulmanboi. As far as I can tell, floaters are not a big problem, but it is a good idea to get a check up to be sure.
 

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@Bulmanboi do make sure you get full details of the type of test and the test results. You can ask for a print out for your own records. This will help if you have any questions you want to ask us about your results.
 

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Hoping to get the results tomorrow , Wednesday at the latest! It's hard being patient !

Anyone know where I could do to get the prick test for my blood in the mean time ? X
 

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Blimey, @Bulmanboi , you're beginning to sound like a kid who can't wait for Christmas, we're a nice friendly lot on here, but qualifying to join us isn't that fantastic!
In answer to your question, I understand that some pharmacies will do an on the spot test, but, if you do find somewhere, this is only a spot reading, influenced by recent food intake, hot/cold, other health and recent exercise.
Sally
 
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The urine test result is a positive sign that no urgent action is needed. Please try and be patient.