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Fed up with constant high morning levels!

mehhh2015 said:
Since you mentioned that you are not very mobile maybe what the other forum member said about lifting cans and things like that could make a big difference.
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Mobility issues, including arm muscles etc. Doesn't take much to leave me in pain for days. I can manage a slow walk with my dog, length of walk depends on how I am on the day, and that's about it.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Metformin is a cumulative drug. It builds up in the system, so accidentally missing the odd ones won't make any difference, and neither will time of day. They are well known to cause tummy problems in some people (plenty of threads on here about it) although this usually disappears after a few weeks. This is why people are advised to split doses and take them with food to help alleviate the tummy issues.
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Ah I see, thanks. I don't remember having side effects but having ulcerative colitis I've always had plenty of symptoms anyway.
I'm on a lot of meds so take omeprazole which is supposed to help protect the stomach, so maybe I don't have the metformin side effects.
 
Bebo321 said:
One other thread I have followed previously has suggested that having a snack immediately you wake up can suppress the rise in BGs. Cheese straws kept next to the bed seemed to have a very positive effect if snacked on first thing.
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By the time I get up it's already too late, they already gone up. Think I'll try the metformin very early, around 6am like I said before.

And cheese straws, just looked, 17.5 per straw!!
 
rowan said:
By the time I get up it's already too late, they already gone up. Think I'll try the metformin very early, around 6am like I said before.

And cheese straws, just looked, 17.5 per straw!!
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Rowan try making your own cheese straws....almond flour grated cheese and egg yolk to bind, if you like a generous teaspoon of mustard powder for added bite .
 
rowan said:
By the time I get up it's already too late, they already gone up. Think I'll try the metformin very early, around 6am like I said before.

And cheese straws, just looked, 17.5 per straw!!
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Yes, it shouldn't really make sense. I wondered if it had something to do with the citric acid in them (which I think has a similar effect to acetic acid - you probably already know about the beneficial effects of vinegar) I can't imaging the amount in a cheese straw is high enough to be significant though. Nevertheless it appears that for some it stops the rise. Nuts seemed to work fairly well too.

Oh, just a thought as well, I have heard that dawn phenomenon is also linked to sunlight (or any light) Your eyes/brain can detect light even when closed. It could be worth using black-out curtains if you think that could be a factor.

I hope your strategy with metformin works. It will be interesting to hear what happens.:)
 
rowan said:
By the time I get up it's already too late, they already gone up. Think I'll try the metformin very early, around 6am like I said before.

And cheese straws, just looked, 17.5 per straw!!
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Sorry, I'm just going to repeat a very sensible point that @Bluetit1802 made, and that is in reference to Gliclazide. Are you still taking it?
If you're low carbing then there is relatively little work for your pancreas to do with regard to producing insulin particularly if you do any exercise at all.

Overnight, it could well be that you are getting a liver dump due to your BG levels falling too low which would explain why you are already high as soon as you wake. It's just a thought and certainly worth a conversation with your doctor.

As I suggested before it may well be worth setting the alarm to test during the night so at least you can be sure one way or the other.
 
Clivethedrive said:
Print
Cheddar Cheese Straws and the Cabot FitTeam
Yield: 24 straws
Serving Size: 2 straws
image: http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Cheddar-Cheese-Straws-2.jpg
Cheddar Cheese Straws and the Cabot FitTeam
Skip the puff pastry and make low carb cheese straws at home with almond flour. They make a great healthy, gluten-free appetizer or snack!
Ingredients
1 & 1/4 cup almond flour
2 tbsp coconut flour (I used Bob's Red Mill)
2 tbsp arrowroot starch (I used Bob's Red Mill)
1 tsp xanthan gum
1/2 tsp garlic powder
1/4 tsp salt
5 tbsp butter, well chilled and cut into small pieces
2-4 tbsp ice water
4 oz finely shredded sharp cheddar
Instructions
In the bowl of a food processor, combine almond flour, coconut flour, arrowroot starch, xanthan gum, garlic powder and salt. Pulse a few times to combine.
Sprinkle butter over almond flour mixture and pulse until it resembles fine crumbs.
With processor running on low, add water through feeding tube 1 tablespoon at a time until dough clumps together.
Form into a flat disc and cover with plastic wrap. Chill 30 minutes.
Preheat oven to 300F and line a large baking sheet with parchment paper.
Take about 1 tablespoon of dough and roll it between your palms into a cigar shape. Continue to roll gently on a piece of parchment or a silicon baking mat into a long thin stick, less than half an inch thick and 7 or 8 inches long (if it breaks at any point, you can easily press it back together).
Sprinkle with a few teaspoons of grated cheddar, gently pressing the cheese into the stick to adhere. Transfer to prepared baking sheet.
Repeat with remaining dough and cheese.
Bake 25 to 30 minutes, until firm and cheese is lightly browned. Remove from oven and let cool completely (they won't be crisp until they are fully cooled).
Notes
Serves 12. Each serving has 3 g NET CARBS.
163 Calories; 14g Fat (74.6% calories from fat); 5g Protein; 5g Carbohydrate; 2g Dietary Fiber; 23mg Cholesterol; 159mg Sodium.
http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/2014/04/cheddar-cheese-straws-low-carb-and-gluten-free.html
Copyright �© 2012 Alldayidreamaboutfood.com

Read more at http://alldayidreamaboutfood.com/20...carb-and-gluten-free.html#mbTkRYJO2rVgCrqw.99
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thank you. A lot of ingredients i never use so haven't got and a lot of faffing about, think I'll try and find something easier ;)
 
Bebo321 said:
Sorry, I'm just going to repeat a very sensible point that @Bluetit1802 made, and that is in reference to Gliclazide. Are you still taking it?
If you're low carbing then there is relatively little work for your pancreas to do with regard to producing insulin particularly if you do any exercise at all.

Overnight, it could well be that you are getting a liver dump due to your BG levels falling too low which would explain why you are already high as soon as you wake. It's just a thought and certainly worth a conversation with your doctor.

As I suggested before it may well be worth setting the alarm to test during the night so at least you can be sure one way or the other.
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I've reduced the gliclazide from 2 to 1 in the evening (started that last night), still taking 2 in the morning.
And yes, I wake a couple of times in the night and do test. The rise happens after 6am.
 
Cheese Crackers with Almond Flour (Gluten Free)
(Makes about 30 crackers, recipe from The Gluten-Free Almond Flour Cookbook by Elena Amsterdam. This recipe is half the amount in the book, so double it and make the full recipe if you prefer.)

1 1/4 cup blanched almond flour (not the same as almond meal)
1/8 tsp. salt (I used fine grind sea salt)
1/4 tsp. baking soda
1/2 cup freshly grated cheddar cheese (I used extra sharp cheddar and lightly packed it into measuring cup)
1 1/2 T canola oil (Elana uses grapeseed oil, which I didn't have)
1 large egg

If you store your almond flour in the freezer like I do, you'll need to take it out and let come to room temperature for a few minutes before using in the recipe. Preheat oven to 350F/175C. Grate 1/2 cup cheddar cheese.

In a medium-sized bowl, combine almond flour, salt, baking soda and cheese. In a smaller bowl, whisk together the egg and oil. Pour the egg mixture into the dry ingredients and stir until well-combined.

Cut two pieces of parchment paper the size of your baking sheet. (To bake in a toaster oven with a small baking sheet, you'll need three pieces.) Put one piece of parchment on cutting board and put dough on top, or half the dough if baking on small baking sheet. (I made the dough into the shape of the parchment.) Put second piece of parchment on top of the dough and roll out with rolling pin until dough covers the parchment sheet. (It's fairly important to roll it out the same thickness or the thinner pieces will burn, a lesson I learned the hard way.)

Remove top parchment and cut dough into pieces 2 inches square. (A pizza cutter would be perfect for this if you have one.) Slide the parchment with the cut dough onto baking sheet and bake crackers 12-15 minutes, or until lightly browned.

Let crackers cool on the baking sheet for 30 minutes (or if you need to bake another batch like I did, carefully slide first batch off to cutting board to cool while you use baking sheet to bake the second batch.)

Crackers will keep for a few days in a plastic container, if you can manage to keep them around that long!




This printable recipe from KalynsKitchen.com.
 
Clivethedrive said:
Cheese Crackers with Almond Flour (Gluten Free)
(Makes about 30 crackers, recipe from The Gluten-Free Almond Flour Cookbook by Elena Amsterdam. This recipe is half the amount in the book, so double it and make the full recipe if you prefer.)
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Thank you, but I have to admit I'm not that keen on cheesy biscuits etc, I prefer plain biscuits with a lump of cheese.
And I hate American recipes! How much is 'a cup' - I have cups of all sizes and it must make a difference! And what is baking soda? I have baking powder and I have bicarb of soda, but no baking soda?
 
rowan said:
Thank you, but I have to admit I'm not that keen on cheesy biscuits etc, I prefer plain biscuits with a lump of cheese.
And I hate American recipes! How much is 'a cup' - I have cups of all sizes and it must make a difference! And what is baking soda? I have baking powder and I have bicarb of soda, but no baking soda?
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Rowan I totally concur, I'm still working in ounces.
A lot of years ago I was making the Christmas cake with the help of our two sons. The youngest was reading the recipe book.
What ozzys he said ( think ozy Osbourne ) he had not seen oz written before.
I just stopped his older brother putting a table spoon of mixed spice in, when it should have only been at teaspoon! It was funny, yes the cake was very nice.

The young one now gives me! tips on cooking.
Do mums cook withe their children these days. Probably not Im old fashion. ;)
 
I'm getting very disillusioned now, my BG hasn't gone below 10 for a few days and mornings have been at least 15. I've not had many carbs, yesterday was a very typical day:
Breakfast 2 rye crisbreads (13g carbs) buttered with egg mayonnaise (Hellmanns full fat).
Lunch homemade veg soup made with all low carb veg and lentils
Dinner chicken breast, roast celeriac, green beans and roast fennel
Glass of red wine
2 snacks of cheddar cheese
Coffee with double cream
2 cups chai with splash of lactofree milk
That is the sort of thing I've been having every day for the last few weeks, no bread, no potatoes, no rice, no fruit, no ready meals, tried noodles twice with disastrous results so kept low carb ever since. I've lost around 4lb over the last week, but levels have gone up from the week before, what am I doing wrong?

I split my dinner time dose of metformin and left 1 till bedtime with a snack of cheese 10.7 around midnight, 11.5 at 5.30am and I had a piece of cheese, and 15.4 when I woke at 10.30am.

Breakfast ryvita and egg mayonnaise, 1 hour later 16.7, 2 hours later 13.2

I had my fortnightly injection of Humira last night, a drug which does increase BG, but my levels were high before that. I've emailed the med company to find out more about the rise in BG, whether it happens more just after the injection, or it if raises levels all the time, and I've had an email back to say they 'aim to respond to enquires within 2 days'. Am seeing the specialist Humira nurse next week so will discuss it with her, but I might have to come off it because it's causing other inflammation problems. Maybe that's raising my levels, but I was down in the 7s last week!

I just don't know what to do now, I'm really not 'cheating' with my food as that would only harm me and I'm getting desperate now!
 
rowan said:
I'm getting very disillusioned now, my BG hasn't gone below 10 for a few days and mornings have been at least 15. I've not had many carbs, yesterday was a very typical day:
Breakfast 2 rye crisbreads (13g carbs) buttered with egg mayonnaise (Hellmanns full fat).
Lunch homemade veg soup made with all low carb veg and lentils
Dinner chicken breast, roast celeriac, green beans and roast fennel
Glass of red wine
2 snacks of cheddar cheese
Coffee with double cream
2 cups chai with splash of lactofree milk
That is the sort of thing I've been having every day for the last few weeks, no bread, no potatoes, no rice, no fruit, no ready meals, tried noodles twice with disastrous results so kept low carb ever since. I've lost around 4lb over the last week, but levels have gone up from the week before, what am I doing wrong?

I split my dinner time dose of metformin and left 1 till bedtime with a snack of cheese 10.7 around midnight, 11.5 at 5.30am and I had a piece of cheese, and 15.4 when I woke at 10.30am.

Breakfast ryvita and egg mayonnaise, 1 hour later 16.7, 2 hours later 13.2

I had my fortnightly injection of Humira last night, a drug which does increase BG, but my levels were high before that. I've emailed the med company to find out more about the rise in BG, whether it happens more just after the injection, or it if raises levels all the time, and I've had an email back to say they 'aim to respond to enquires within 2 days'. Am seeing the specialist Humira nurse next week so will discuss it with her, but I might have to come off it because it's causing other inflammation problems. Maybe that's raising my levels, but I was down in the 7s last week!

I just don't know what to do now, I'm really not 'cheating' with my food as that would only harm me and I'm getting desperate now!
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Hi Rowan,
I am very new to testing and lchf, so can't help.
But hang on in there I am sure members with experience will be along soon with help.
Keep your chin up.
 
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