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First steps on a new journey

Solentblue

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi been reading various thread's and gaining knowledge on a new experience only known I was T2 for 2 weeks. Slowly increasing the daily dosage of metformin with zero side effects to date. Have done slimming world programme before diagnosis and think it would fit the bill again with slight changes (?) Started a diet after last holiday in august and am 1.5 stone less and that is more important now ! Great feedbacks forum thank you one and all. Only question is what should my test results be ? 7.8 in morning 12.+ in evening, know early days and will establish a target at 3 months with PN
 
Hi @Solentblue Welcome to the best ever place to learn how to manage your diabetes.

I think SW is excellent for weight loss and I have a friend that lost a lot of weight on it but I think it would need a lot of changes in order to affect your Bloods because it contains a lot of carbohydrate like pasta, rice, etc. and most of us find they are the culprits for raising BS.

I will tag @daisy1 to give you a mine of information that helped us all to understand so much about the road ahead.

Good luck with your journey. You have come to the right place for answers as everyone is very knowledgeable and helpful xx
 
@Solentblue

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful, especially the information on carbs. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Control of carbohydrates can work wonders on your blood glucose, but it really requires a different mind set on what is and is not a healthy diet. I had to really strive towards zero carb meals to make progress. My blood glucose numbers improved dramatically and I find I can tolerate sensible amounts of some types of bread in sensible quantities.

Potatoes Pasta, CousCous, Rice, inded any kind of Root Vegetable or Grain product has to be off the menu.
Whole grains have a reduced impact but they are still carbohydrate so take care.
Once you get your blood glucose numbers down by being strict then experiment (carefully) to find how your body reacts to different foods.
 
Hi @Solentblue - welcome to the forum.
If you find Slimming World useful, there's no reason why you can't use it to help you lose weight. Sometimes it can help to know you're going to be weighed - as an incentive to stick to it! Just remember to keep a strict control of your carbohydrate intake (sugar, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes etc) whilst you're doing it. Remember that the class leaders are there for the gen public and you'll have to adapt the diet for your own needs. Well done on your weight loss so far!
As for BG's - generally type 2 diabetics should aim to keep them below 8.5 mmols/l, 2 hours after food.
The morning one can be a little tricky. Often they are higher than we would like - due to your liver releasing glucose as you're not eating anything - and because we are resistant to insulin - it doesn't get mopped up.
Keep an eye on what you eat. Test before meals and 2 hours after. If your BG goes up by more than 2mmols/l - 2 hours after you've eaten, then you've eaten something that you're unable to process well. All you can do is experiment with different foods and see what you can manage and what you can't.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
 
Hi been reading various thread's and gaining knowledge on a new experience only known I was T2 for 2 weeks. Slowly increasing the daily dosage of metformin with zero side effects to date. Have done slimming world programme before diagnosis and think it would fit the bill again with slight changes (?) Started a diet after last holiday in august and am 1.5 stone less and that is more important now ! Great feedbacks forum thank you one and all. Only question is what should my test results be ? 7.8 in morning 12.+ in evening, know early days and will establish a target at 3 months with PN

Hi Solentblue
Welcome to the forum - You have come to the right place to learn about your condition.
It might be worth you checking out the LCHF diet section on this forum, it has a wealth of information you will find helpful when it comes to diet.

Good luck!
 
Hi and welcome to the club and the start of you diabetes journey. You are already on the right track by coming on the forum. As you make dietary and lifestyle changes you will see your numbers start to drop, have a good read through daisys post above as it provides a wealth of information.
 
Hi and welcome, having low carbs is great to reduce sugar levels. Look at total carb and not sugars. Go for full fat yogurt instead of low fat. I use to suffer from Dawn phenomenon, it was so frustrating. It's not so bad now, before bed I was 5.5 this morning 5.8 use to be so much higher. Carry-on, you will get thete
 
Hi solentblue, I'm a newbie too. Just thought I'd mention that slimming world is now very different from the old red and green days. They encourage lower carb eating now with the new plan and even have a diabetic book... well more of a leaflet really but it's definitely moved on from "eat as much pasta/potatoes/etc as you want".

I've lost two and a half stones this year but have stalled and started regaining. I wanted to make it three stones for the year but I'm struggling badly even with the news about my diabetes diagnosis... lots of other issues with me too, sadly!

Good luck with whatever weight loss programme you choose.
 
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