'Food- truth or Scare' BBC1

[Jamrox]

As someone who has struggled with my weight for very many years I think I'm going to use my two brain cells (if I can find them both) and give this forum a rest for a while. It's bad enough having to go around looking like this, but I'm still getting the message that slim people are good and fat people are bad. That's not helpful at all.

@zand I like you know fat and thin diabetic people .
Yes being overweight is s risk factor but so are genetic factors . Just let people think what they will

 

[Robinredbreast]

Yes that may be so but it still affects you as it can colour the attitudes of those around you who do watch it.

No, that episode regarding males kissing didn't affect me and I do know that what we see and hear can affect people and the viewers, either negative, positive or indifferent, it goes without saying.

 

[Pipp]

My grandson's other grandparents are both T2 one is fat the other is thin.

I don't know which I object to most being called fat or being called stupid.

I could add to that, being called a liar, when I tell people that I do not eat takeaways, or ready meals, or junk food.

 

[Jamrox]

Hi I have been diagnosed T2 3 weeks ago, taking meds as required. re the overweight issue,
on my last two holidays to portugal I noticed that there were more overweight people than ever
but they do not have a diabetes problem

Or they don't know they have diabetes !

 

[Jamrox]

Hi @jhickman and welcome to the forum.
Re Portugal, according to this they do have a diabetes problem there:

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Wow now that's interesting , I go to Portugal every September , the diet is pretty low carb meat, fish , veg etc .
I have had difficulty getting sugar free lemonade etc though.

 

[Jamrox]

I could add to that, being called a liar, when I tell people that I do not eat takeaways, or ready meals, or junk food.

I eat them but not very often

 

[Brunneria]

This website explains how alcohol can make some people develop insulin resistance leading to the diagnosis of type 2.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/255716.php

I have watched 3 relatives develop type 2 through drinking alcohol every week in large quantities and one has now died from end stage liver disease, the other 2 are taking oral medication to control the bg along with other med.

I also became great friends with a type 2 diabetic who was very overweight/obese and was so insulin resistant that huge doses of insulin by injection was needed and even that didnt work so U500 was obtained through special funding and I helped getting/support with a specialist for an insulin pump. My friend was diagnosed with NAFLD, a scared liver, huge rises in the CA19 and CA125 tumour markers in the bloodstream and a whole host of other serious medical problems affecting every organ more or less in the body from head to foot along with a leg ulcer - gangrene, retinopathy, neuropathy, incontinence. She needed a new body and her head transplanted on to it. The tumour markers revealed the possibilty of islet cancer. She died a few years ago leaving me devastated as I tried to deal with the financial mess she left because she had no family that wanted to take responsibilty.

While I respect and sympathise with your personal experiences, none of the details you have given justify the statements/opinions you have previously made on this thread.

If I only looked at my personal experiences and family history, I would be telling the forum that 4 out of 5 T2s develop diabetes while slim, fit, active, in their 60s-70s (I am the only fat T2 in the family, and my weight is the result of a cocktail of hormone issues, and insulin resistance). From personal observation, I would also be telling the forum that there are more T1s than T2s (there have always been more T1s in my work/friendship/acquaintance environment than there are T2s).

We cannot use personal experiences to declare national trends. Our sample size is simply too small.

 

[Prem51]

Wow now that's interesting , I go to Portugal every September , the diet is pretty low carb meat, fish , veg etc .
I have had difficulty getting sugar free lemonade etc though.

I've been to Portugal a few times, but not for about seven years now. They do eat a lot of rice and potatoes too. But like you, until I googled it, I wouldn't have thought that diabetes was a big problem as they have a mainly 'Mediterranean' diet.

 

[Brunneria]

I've been to Portugal a few times, but not for about seven years now. They do eat a lot of rice and potatoes too. But like you, until I googled it, I wouldn't have thought that diabetes was a big problem as they have a mainly 'Mediterranean' diet.

I wonder how much their diet has changed over the last couple of generations...

 

[Prem51]

Yes 'fast food' is everywhere now. The Evil Empire. I've been to Thailand many times, and they used to have quite a healthy diet, but now fast foods like burgers and pizza are fashionable with the younger people, with a notable increase in body shape.
Same in India where there is a growing obesity problem, and Indians were even previously more genetically prone to developing T2 diabetes.

 

[Prem51]

Or they don't know they have diabetes !

Or they have diabetes but you don't know that they do.