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Found out today....

owensmum

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Location
Kent, UK
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi,

I've just found out today that my fasting blood test showed a level 8.7 and that I have diabetes. I had gestational diabetes 6 years ago but all blood tests since then have come back normal. I now have to go to see the nurse but I have no idea what to expect!To be honest, I am overweight and I know I have no one to blame but myself but it's still a shock! I'm hoping to find a bit more info and support on this site so please bear with me if I ask stuff that has been asked a hundred times!!
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Hi. Daisy will be along soon with a useful set of information and references. As you have probably worked out, diet is something you will need to work on together with exercise where you can. If you can get the carbohydrates down then you should see a gradual reduction in your blood sugar. Daisy will reference advice on sensible diets but reducing bread, pasta, rice and so is where to start as well as, obviously, not having any added sugar. Go for low-GI and keep portion sizes sensible. You have joined a large and growing group of diabetics so you are not alone and do ask anything that you need to know.
 
Hi Owensmum and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned by Daibell, here is the information we give to new members which I think will be helpful to you. Ask as many questions as you need to, I expect you will have lots, and there will be plenty of answers for you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
To be honest, I am overweight and I know I have no one to blame but myself but it's still a shock!

Owensmum,

one of the biggest myths out there is that overweight people are ALL to blame for their condition.
My research into diet and nutrition since being diagnosed three months ago (T2) has led me to believe that current dietary advice is actually leading some to put on weight.
So don't beat yourself up.

And remember, knowledge is power, so just use this forum and other sources to 'educate' yourself at your own pace.

p.s. not sure how to cut and paste properly from your post, so won't know if I've done it properly till I press submit : )
 
The odd thing is, apart from the blood test result, I have absolutely no symptoms at all. I can only assume my diabetes is either quite mild or in the early stages. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!! And thanks for all the messages! It helps to know there is somewhere to go to get good advice and support :)
 
Hi again,

I only went to the dr last November because I'd had an acute infection (kidney ?) that was painful, and had me confined to the sofa for an entire weekend. On my visit to the dr my BP was 180 - what a shock ! That's also symptomless : (
One blood test later, and we're talking diabetes. That came completely out of the blue !!
So for me, before that infection came along, I was fine.
So, nothing odd about it at all.
 
owensmum said:
The odd thing is, apart from the blood test result, I have absolutely no symptoms at all. I can only assume my diabetes is either quite mild or in the early stages. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!! And thanks for all the messages! It helps to know there is somewhere to go to get good advice and support :)

Hi and welcome to the forum.
There is no such thing as mild diabetes. That is like saying I am mildly pregnant. You either have it or not.
Take advantage of the help you will get here, read Daisy's excellent advice and ask as many questions as you like. You will find that people do not have a blueprint in management that you can adhere to, you have to find something that works for you. It is trial and error as to what will work for you. Your best friend is your meter as this will tell you your reaction to foods.
Take care and look forward to your future posts.
 
librarising said:
Hi again,

I only went to the dr last November because I'd had an acute infection (kidney ?) that was painful, and had me confined to the sofa for an entire weekend. On my visit to the dr my BP was 180 - what a shock ! That's also symptomless : (
One blood test later, and we're talking diabetes. That came completely out of the blue !!
So for me, before that infection came along, I was fine.
So, nothing odd about it at all.


Mine was diagnosed after blood tests for an acute kidney infection too! I was getting cystitis at the same rate that people get colds so I was asked for urine samples and blood tests. Nothing came up with regards to any further infection but diabetes did. Maybe there's a link between the two? :?
 
Hi owensmum, and welcome. It's a natural thing to try and find or put reasons to getting diabetes. I had 2 normal blood test results in 2 consecutive years, then only months later was diagnosed with T2. My son is only 20, and was diagnosed just before Christmas, and he didn't have any symptoms at all, except he had a bout of thrush, went to docs, had blood tests and was diagnosed T2. He was wanting reasons and trying to connect it with past ailments.

Without a Genie, none of us really know why. All you can do now is look forward, and manage your diabetes the best you can. :)

Best wishes,
Helena
 
Hi. Thrush is one of the most common early symptoms. My GP gave me ointment for it and it never ocurred to him that it might a be a symptom of diabetes (it should have). Unfortunately I then drank lots of standard Cranberry juice to help and the sugar brought on the complete list of symptoms! Sounds like you have been caught early. I must admit I disagree with the professionally held view that there isn't 'mild' diabetes (sorry Cathereincherub and many others, but there you go). This is all about getting people to take diabetes seriously. All diabetes must be taken seriously to avoid future problems but by knowing the level of blood sugar management problem at diagnosis you can determine the best early approach such as trying diet & exercise and only adding tablets later if needed
 
My doctor suggested I would need medication from the start and I'm really hoping it's the tablet kind and I very needle-phobic! The prick test doesn't bother me but having to inject myself really would!! :thumbdown:
 
Yes the normal gp strategy is to put a newly diagnosed person on some or other dose of the drug Metformin which is in tablet form. This is the safest diabetic drug you can take by a long way. Some people get side effects, stomach problems, running to the loo etc but these can be resolved in most cases by going back to your gp and getting the SR (slow release version). Metformin is not a magic bullet and is by no means as effective as changing your diet by a long way. I take it on my lowish carb diet as it allows me to eat a bit more carbs and stops my blood sugars from spiking so much after meals. It is very effective in that regards. Some people again like me will only get Metformins embarrasing side effects is we eat too much carbs. I use it as a means of knowing if I've eaten too much of something.
 
So I got home last night and had a answerphone message telling me the earliest I can be seen is March 13th... in the meantime I don't know if I'm eating or doing the wrong thing... feeling quite anxious... :cry:
 
Just follow the advice in Daisy's post and cut down on bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and of course highly sugared foods and you will be fine.
 
cut down on bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and of course highly sugared foods and you will be fine.

Not if you're still uncorking a bottle of wine every evening to chillax ; )

Just see handling diabetes as a marathon not a sprint.

Now where's my beer gone ?

Be well
Geoff
 
librarising said:
cut down on bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and of course highly sugared foods and you will be fine.

Not if you're still uncorking a bottle of wine every evening to chillax ; )

Just see handling diabetes as a marathon not a sprint.

Now where's my beer gone ?

Be well
Geoff

I don't actually drink that much... an occasional glass of wine and I drink alcohol free beer as I went right off the taste of lager for some reason! :***:
 
))Denise(( said:
Just follow the advice in Daisy's post and cut down on bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and of course highly sugared foods and you will be fine.

Excellent advice from Denise imo. I didn't get to see my DSN for a month after diagnosis and would have sat there for that month with dangerously high BG's in the 20's effectively ignoring my condition if it wasn't for my Type 1 son who measured my sugars and then told me to do EXACTLY what Denise has said and to start NOW.

Not only will following Denise' advise give you a head start it will also get you to accept you're now diabetic and need to make permanent life style changes NOW.

Where I do agree with librarising is that it is a marathon but until there's a cure its a marathon that will never end so you need to choose a life style choice that you will be comfortable with and keep you healthy for the years ahead.
 
The hardest thig for many people o accep is the fact that there is no one treatmen or lifestyle and that the Dr or nurse doesn't necessarily know what is right for you.
This is very understandable especially for anyone who hasn't had much contact with chronic disease or conditions and their reatment. Most , up to the point of diagnosis are awae of medication for diabetes and thik it is purely a matter of rolling up o the surgery and collecting the prescription. It would probably be helpful if they were given some idea that they really neeed o get involved and try to take responsibility for their own diabees.

Of course, the problem with this is ,that it militates against the current culture of leaving it alll o the professionals lest we become depressed. Self-testing not recommended, j"we will take care of all that" less advice than ever before because "we will get you on a course " sometime. Of course , for T2s NOT going on the course might be a bonus!

I have a newly diagnosed friend, he iis not overweight and follos a GI die but has other healh conditions. he was given no advice and old he could maybe go on a course sometime net year. I have given him the advice to the newly diagnosed from here and various other information but I can ell he regards me as a dangerous dissident because people of his generaion
regard Drs as infallible.

It would be so easy to give some helpful advice right from the beginning.. I was old that I needn't worry hat there would be any changes to my lifestyle. I assumed it was because I was slim and did not fit the sereotype in other ways but I believe it is fairly common and edeliberate to do this so as not o alarm and overwhelm patientts/ I can understand the principle but think it is
wrong. I am sure advice could be given in a non=alarmist and threatening way- we know it can don't we?

Totally agree with xyzzy. How many are sitting there for months with dangerously high levels - living in a fool's paradise?
 
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