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Free flu jab offered to record numbers this year

Discussion in 'Diabetes News' started by DCUK NewsBot, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    Bulk buy is cheaper but in this case a benefit, for all.
    No real point though. I guess I'm impressed that everyone will hv a chance to be immunated.
    Even those not even diagnosed prediabetic or diabetic yet.
    A huge amount of carers these days to.
    It is a benefit which myself cannot afford to pass up. I'd be idiotic in fact. My GP wouldn't be very pleased if I became hospitalised due to refusing their support.
    We are all different and have different support needs.
    I would never push my needs on someone else. That is wrong.
    Adults can be trusted to evaluate their own preferential needs. GPS are paid to evaluate the support available.
    Medically I go with my care giver unless I fundamentally know its not beneficial, FOR ME.
    Thankful we live in a country with that freedom.
     
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  2. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Master

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    We are all different. Many of us are sheep when it's known to benefit the many. It's worth evaluating whether you are unusual, unusual enough to avoid flu considering how highly contagious it is and whether this year's jab is targetting the most common flu viruses.
    Some just ride on the backs of those immunised and take their chances.
     
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  3. porl69

    porl69 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Not a good experience for your mother and I can certainly see why you do not have it.
    I have had it for numerous years now and have not had any side effects from the jab itself nor have I had the flu either. I guess we are all so very different
     
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  4. Tipetoo

    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    I have been getting a free fluvax for nearly twenty years as I have a COPD here in Australia, I have never got the flue or flu type symptoms with any of the vax needles in this time.
     
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  5. Pinkorchid

    Pinkorchid Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    . What are you saying then that those of us that do have the jab are like sheep just having it done because others do
     
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  6. porl69

    porl69 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts as well!
     
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  7. Pinkorchid

    Pinkorchid Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Do you stay in your house and never risk going out in the winter so as not to come into contact with the virus. I am sure if the effectiveness of it was limited the NHS would not spend the money on it every year. Side effects from it are very rare and it seems like your mother was allergic to the vaccine and perhaps should not have been given it.
     
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  8. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    I certainly don't, I weigh up the options.
    ps, I have nothing against sheep :D
     
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  9. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    My elderly dad had the flu vaccine ( I took him to the clinic, then later on as he got a little frail, his doctor gave it to him with his checks up's) and as he got older one dose of the pneumococcal vaccine, he never had flu in his whole life.
     
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    #29 Robinredbreast, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:01 AM
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  10. Robinredbreast

    Robinredbreast Type 1 · Oracle

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    As in this earlier post, my then baby granddaughter contracted a strain of Swine flu, so could this of possibly started off a trigger reaction with her being with diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when she was just 2 yrs, it makes me wonder ?
     
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  11. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    In the UK I believe they decide which strains of the flu virus to include in the vaccination from the strains prevalent in Australia the previous winter. Presumably infection travels around the world with the seasons. Do you know how they decide in Australia?
     
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  12. Tipetoo

    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    @Mr_Pot,This might give you a insight...

    https://www.tga.gov.au/community-qa...e-production-and-regulatory-approval-timeline

    Edit: I just updated the link in my sig as it was last years still.

    https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/2019-seasonal-influenza-vaccines
     
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  13. Brunneria

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    Yes, that is exactly my experience, and decision process.
    I would be queuing up for the pneumonia jab (low mutation rate of virus, and longterm efficacy of vaccination) but I will leave the flu jab well alone. Family history of illness and reactions following the injection, plus the questionable efficacy of it, and vast cost to the NHS.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/flu-vaccine-effectiveness-in-2017-to-2018-season
     
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  14. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Presumably somewhat offset by the reduction in hospital admissions.
     
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    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  16. Brunneria

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    Well, I would love to see the figures on that, it you can come up with them.

    I'm not sure they would influence my decision in the slightest, but it would be very interesting to see them.
     
  17. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea of the relative cost compared to the vaccine but 2,182 people in the UK were in intensive care last winter due to flu.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society...flu-vaccine-as-critical-cases-rise-above-2000
     
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  18. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have no intention of getting a flu jab at this time. That's the extent of my input :cool:
     
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  19. Tipetoo

    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    I personally know two "anti fluvaxers" that ended up in hospital this winter in Australia, they caught the A strain variety.

    I bet they get vaccinated next year... :meh:
     
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  20. LooperCat

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    I ended up in intensive care for a week after getting flu, being so ill I missed a couple of doses of Lantus and having almost fatal DKA. Going for my job on Saturday.
     
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