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Type 2 Fruit Power Juicer

Darren692

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Bristol
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
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I was thinking of getting a juicer as I can.t eat fruit whole as I lost my top teeth because of eating to much fruit so my dentist tells me. I was thinking it be better then buying fruit juice because of sugar in the juice you buy in shops can you please help. Thank you for your time Darren
 
Fruit is for the most part a bit of a no-no if you are a Type 2. Far to many carbohydrates so best avoided.
 
I was thinking of getting a juicer as I can.t eat fruit whole as I lost my top teeth because of eating to much fruit so my dentist tells me. I was thinking it be better then buying fruit juice because of sugar in the juice you buy in shops can you please help. Thank you for your time Darren
Hi Darren and welcome to the forum :)

This is a tasty and nutritious juice that is not bad for carbs https://bioglansuperfoods.co.uk/product/411/
 
Thank you for your answers I've not been told what I can & can't eat just stop using sugar in my tea & coffee and loss some weight my GP take my blood every three mouths & take Sukkarto tablets twice daily that's all again thank you for your help
 
Oh dear - reducing sugar has very little to do with controlling diabetes.
Depending on your individual reaction to carbohydrates you need to reduce or cut back a lot on starches and sugars from all sources, and it would help a lot if you could get a meter to take blood glucose levels to see how high your blood glucose gets after eating the foods you try out.
I cannot eat potatoes, bread, cereals, high sugar fruits and starchy vegetables and keep my readings low, others on the forum can manage small amounts - it is very various.
 
Thank you for your answers I've not been told what I can & can't eat just stop using sugar in my tea & coffee and loss some weight my GP take my blood every three mouths & take Sukkarto tablets twice daily that's all again thank you for your help
It's shocking how little information we are often given. I will ask member @daisy1 to post some helpful information for you. Meanwhile, have a look around this site and pick up what you can.
 
I just ordered some of this. What exactly is it? :) You mix it with water I guess to make a drink? How many drinks do you get?
I have a 100g bag here and it suggests 10g (2 tsp) per drink. Mix it with water. It looks like pond water but tastes a bit like pineapples. It is quite expensive so we usually stock up when Holland & Barrett have it on offer. It claims "each serving is equivalent to 10 portions of fruit and vegetables" and is only 3.2g of carbs per serving. Handy if a person can't eat veg for whatever reason. I eat a ton of veg anyway. I hope you like it.
 
There is more sugar in a glass of fruit juice than a glass of Coca Cola. Fruit juice should be avoided if you are type 2. The only fruits you should consider eating are blueberries and strawberries. You can eat double cream with some strawberries.
 
I have a 100g bag here and it suggests 10g (2 tsp) per drink. Mix it with water. It looks like pond water but tastes a bit like pineapples. It is quite expensive so we usually stock up when Holland & Barrett have it on offer. It claims "each serving is equivalent to 10 portions of fruit and vegetables" and is only 3.2g of carbs per serving. Handy if a person can't eat veg for whatever reason. I eat a ton of veg anyway. I hope you like it.

You had me sold at pond water.
 
Hi Darren, the problem with juicers is that in the process of juicing your fruit it also takes all the fibre out of it so you are left with just a huge hit of pure fructose, I eat small amounts of fruit most days but I would never juice it as it takes way to much fruit to make a drink.

Also any processing is bad thing, that is what our teeth, saliva, stomach and intestines do, they break down the food we eat, the carbohydrates in potatoes are far faster working when a potato has been mashed rather than just boiled or roasted as it has effectively been 'possessed' before its eaten so most of the work is done before you eat it, the same is true of any carbohydrate food stuff, the less processing the better, so the slower the carbohydrates are absorbed into your blood stream the lower any spike in your blood glucose (bg) will be.

Juicers are not a great idea for anyone let alone a T2 diabetic.
 
Hi and welcome Darren.

I'm sorry you have been given so little info by your surgery, but I am glad you found the forum. Have a good read and you will pick up masses of useful ideas.

As others have said, fruit sugars and starchy carbs from bread rice potato pasta sweet fruit cakes biscuits and so on will all drive our blood glucose up.

In my opinion, the best thing you can do is to get yourself a blood glucose meter (shop around, the price of test strips varies a lot!), and then you can test and see exactly what your food choices are doing to your blood glucose, and make changes to your diet.

Self testing is a fantastic tool for us to get a grip on our condition, and get in control. :D
 
@Darren692

Hello Darren and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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