Getting lost.

[hornplayer]

I seem to be losing my way a bit. Not sure how to get back on track. If anyone has any ideas/advice, I'd really appreciate hearing from you.

Everything's been going well. Losing weight. Eating properly. Doing ok.

I got impatient.

My biggest problem, believe it or not, isn't my weight. - oh, I've never been small. There are a couple of bits of me that never shrink, no matter how little I weigh. As my ex, aka stalker, says, I'm not so much an hour glass, I'm a 24hr glass. And I'm ok with that. I'm fit and I'm strong.

My biggest problem is my diet history and my truly screwed up relationship with food.

I have been on a diet since I was eight years old. I'm now 42. I've done every diet known to man. I don't yo-yo, I go straight from one diet to another.

My metabolism is shot. All the dieting has left me with food allergies that I never had before.

All the chatter I hear tells me that I - diabetics in general, need to be skinny. In a panicky moment, I decided that the only way I was going to do that was to go on a soup/shake diet. I've done these before. I should have known better. My eating habits are all over the place. My energy levels are ****. I'm finding it almost impossible to stick to. i have no concentration and i'm making stupid mistakes. My hair is falling out. I'm having food related panic attacks again.

I need to get back on track.

My blood sugar isn't really bad. But I'm starting to gain weight instead of lose it and I need to refocus.

As I said, any and all suggestions appreciated, but, just incase anyone out there is of the "suck it up and get on with it" persuasion? Please don't comment. Not helpful. Making me feel worse about myself would just exacerbate the problem. I'm sure you understand.

 

[mrman]

To lose weight and be healthy the best thing to do is not think of yourself on a "diet". Instead you have to re~ train you, your body and mind simply to have a normal diet with the occasional treat. Plenty of things on google for you to enter your sex/age/weight which will then advise you on a calorie intake for you. Arrange your meals so they total the calories it states for you, it will work. You can even enter levels of activity which it will also take into account. The more active you are the more calories it will say you can have. Once you have done that for a period of time and wish to maintain weight you simply have more calories. Hope of help, good luck.

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[hornplayer]

Thanks for replying Brett. I appreciate it. I've already got the fitness pal app. it's what I was using before my melt down. I do know how to do it and I'm trying to do it again. I've just lost the mental strength.


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[mrman]

No problem, my wife currently going through the same thing trying to shift some weight, signed up to biggest loser on line. Basically sane advice as I gave lol. She Been doing it for six months now, lost nearly 2 stone so far so does work, although she not diabetic. Never had a weight problem myself but fully sympathise as seen my wife go through all sorts of emotions diets etc. hopefully this be the right change and instead of a temporary diet, an overall healthier lifestyle.

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[Dusk71]

Hornplayer the thing to try to remember( as last post said) its not a diet it's a lifestyle change. You need to be able to adjust you're eating and maintain that style for the rest of your life.... Soups and shakes diets aren't really for the likes of us. Have u considered a weight loss group? Support from others is invaluable. Personally I've been going to one for 7 years. I need to be consistent with going to keep on track (lost 2.5 stone way back) I tell people I'm like an alcoholic going to aa each week to stop me falling off the wagon! Good luck with it all and use these forums as extra support x


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[izzzi]

Hi Hornplayer,

My metabolism is shot. All the dieting has left me with food allergies that I never had before.

That is quite a frightening point with regard to various types of diets. There is some kind of warning message in that.

Dare I ask, have you tried the "vegan,no sugar and no fats type of diet" :?:

Sorry for being a pain and best of luck getting back on track.

Roy.

 

[hornplayer]

Ozzie, I haven't tried a vegan approach. Thank you, I'll look into that.

Dusk, I have tried diet groups in the past. Not really for me, I'm afraid. The very large dose of rebellious child in me sulks. The only one which I did find useful was the group which goes with LighterLife. - cognitive behavioural therapy. Of course, that depends on the councillor and the good one in my area has just quit. The one who's left is not someone I want to talk to, I'm afraid.

Thank you both for your support!


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[Sid Bonkers]

Firstly you dont have to be super thin to control your diabetes but if you are overweight then any weight loss you can achieve and maintain will do you nothing but good.

If youve tried every diet and found that non of them worked for you then you could do worse than to try reading Paul McKenna's book "I Can Make You Thin"

All you can loose by reading it is about £10 if you buy it new or half that if you buy it second hand from Amazon or similar. It comes with a relaxation technique CD.

Its not a diet but it explains how to reprogram the way you think and feel about food. It tells you is to eat as much as you want when you want but to stop when you feel full!

Theres more to it than that of course but thats pretty much it in a nutshell!

I bought it initially as a bit of a joke thinking it was going to be a load of old tosh, but I was surprised how much I got out of it :thumbup:

 

[lrw60]

Hi Hornplayer,

Sorry to hear of your blip. When people ask me how I lost weight and manage to keep it off I have a simple answer. My friend Lorna. I joined WW with Lorna just to support her, but I ended up staying. We now support each other. Having someone to plan meals with is a great help. Is there someone who would like to join you in getting back on track? If not, I will lend you Lorna for a few weeks. She will probably have to bring her cat, Jenny, and her oboe or synth as well. Without a friend to help and to help me I woudn't have made it.

Eating a healthy diet isn't boring or hard, strewth! you can play the Horn for goodness sake! How much easier is it to sort out a decent diet? We are all here to help. I can only help by the loan of my friend, and telling you what a normal days eating is for us. If that helps in any way please let me know.

P.S Don't tell Lorna I am lending her out, not until I have a chat. You know how violent musos can get.

 

[hornplayer]

Ozzie, I haven't tried a vegan approach. Thank you, I'll look into that.

Dusk, I have tried diet groups in the past. Not really for me, I'm afraid. The very large dose of rebellious child in me sulks. The only one which I did find useful was the group which goes with LighterLife. - cognitive behavioural therapy. Of course, that depends on the councillor and the good one in my area has just quit. The one who's left is not someone I want to talk to, I'm afraid.

Thank you both for your support!


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[hornplayer]

Sorry, resent that by accident!

- I'd love to borrow Lorna! I've got a great piece for horn, oboe and piano. Never played it as I can't find an oboist who doesn't drive me nuts!

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm using fitness pal today. Trying to go back to the way I ate pre-blip. And I must say, I feel sick. Not a good start. - I must look bad too! - I spent a couple of hours this afternoon keeping a friend company while she had a blood transfusion and the nurses asked ME if I felt ok and would like a cup of tea! Home now. I haven't eaten much today. I'm going to test my sugars and see if I need to eat. - I know T2s don't go hypo, but I swear it feels like it sometimes!


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[Sid Bonkers]

The one who's left is not someone I want to talk to, I'm afraid.

Well that will be me I guess

This must be one of the rudest posts Ive ever read, and there was me thinking you were asking for advice, how stupid of me.

 

[hornplayer]

I'm sorry Sid, you must have miss understood me. - the person I don't want to talk to isn't you, or anyone else on this forum. It's a councillor who I saw in the past and had a personality clash with. Sorry if I wasn't clear!


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[Dusk71]

Whatever eating plan you decide on hornplayer I wish you all the luck in the world. Stay strong and remember that you're doing it for yourself and it does take time, but it'll be worth it all x


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[Patch13]

Hi Hornplayer.

I hope you are feeling more positive today and a little less lost.

There's some really good advice from other members above but I just thought i would add in what I'm doing too which is different to the above.

After reading Dr Bernsteins Diabetes Solution I have started to low carb. I eat less than 30g of carbs each day which come from vegetables. I'm now in my 8th month of doing it (although I did cut down on carbs slowly at first). I have to say I haven't lost a huge amount of weight and it is very slow to come off, but my real motivation for doing it is my blood sugars, trying to feel less tired and stop feeling so hungry all the time. Weight loss is just a bonus! (I'm a type 1 by the way but I'm unsure if this makes a difference to weight loss or not)

In the past I have tended to diet and exercise and then fall of the wagon and eat everything in sight (consisting mainly of sweet things! - I too had a poor relationship with food). So far I have only had one fall off the wagon in my 8 months (this is somewhat of a record for me as usually a diet would have lasted 1-2 months at the most). The thing that really keeps me motivated is fantastic blood sugar readings and feeling better. Yes sometimes I look at biscuits and think how lucky others are to eat them, but then i remember it isn't worth it for me to upset my blood sugars and ill eat something alternative (like jelly- I love jelly!)

As someone above suggested you need to think of your new way of eating as a lifestyle change and not a diet for a while. When people ask me how long I'm doing my diet I reply "forever" as that is how I see it.

Whatever way of eating you choose it needs to be one that you feel you can sustain and enjoy. I never thought I would enjoy food without carbs but I really do. However choose something that suits you and works for you.

It is also a good idea to find someone to support you if possible. Luckily my husband eats the same way I do so it means its easier at dinner times. At first he was skeptical but then he found he really enjoyed this way of eating too.

With whatever way of eating you choose good luck and keep positive!
Patch13


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[Sid Bonkers]

I'm sorry Sid, you must have miss understood me. - the person I don't want to talk to isn't you, or anyone else on this forum. It's a councillor who I saw in the past and had a personality clash with. Sorry if I wasn't clear!

No need for you to apologise hornplayer, I must have read something in your post that was clearly not intended, so it is me who should apologise for jumping the gun.

Please accept my apology for my sarcastic reply



ps. the Paul McKenna book is a very good read with lots of useful information :thumbup:

 

[hornplayer]

No problem Sid.

I've got the Paul McKenna book. I'm not sure where the CD has gone though. I must admit that I never managed to listen to it without falling asleep! I'll have a look for it and give it another go. Thanks.


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[hanadr]

Perhaps trying to keep your food as natural as you can, might give you a new focus.
Worth a try?
Hana

 

[hornplayer]

Natural is good. My brother is an extreme sportsman. He's a Primal nut.

My basic ideas of what to eat seem to be sound. When I'm thinking clearly. I just can't seem to get my head in the right place. - At the moment, if its bad for me, I crave it above all things! - I can't eat gluten but yesterday I ate bread! - it's like my brain switched off. It made me really ill, and hey, guess what, I've just done it again!!!!?! I'm not over yesterday's little time out yet and I've just written off the next 48hrs too. - And that's before I even start thinking about my blood sugar levels!!?!

I can't decide if I'm punishing myself - can eating things you know will make you ill be considered self harm?? Or if this is just good old self sabotage. -And if it is, why am I doing it???? My head is a scrambled mess.


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[lrw60]

....I can't decide if I'm punishing myself - can eating things you know will make you ill be considered self harm?? Or if this is just good old self sabotage. -And if it is, why am I doing it???? My head is a scrambled mess.


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I am no expert here, but I went through something similar myself several years back. For me it was a reaction to emotional stress. Believe me when I say that a large packet of choc digestives eaten in one sitting does not a good type2 make! Especially when washed down with a bottle of stones ginger wine, or worse still, Tia Maria.

I don't want to pry Hornplayer, but it sounds as if maybe something went a bit wonky?