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Gliclazide and normal diet.

I started yesterday. I halved the breakfast carbs, did away with rhem all together at lunch and had a moderate amount at dinner. Altogether about 60 for the day and I felt a lot better for it. My morning reading this morning was 4.8.
That's brilliant, well done.
 
Much improved. Getting off steroids if you have been on them for a while is never a quick thing. You have to wean yourself off them. Gradual reduction is the key - maybe dropping 5mg every week or two but listen to your body - you may have to slow your reduction depending on how you feel. My largest dose was 60mg when I had a huge MG flare up. I developed diabetes because I have been on long term steroids. It does get better - believe me - though its a rude shock to be diagnosed. I went the same way - low carb - and have lost over 3 stone now - and my BS levels are great and I am off Gliclizade now.

keep your chin up and don't stress yourself.
 

Thank you, I am feeling much more positive today.
 
Thank you Daisy, I thought I had replied to you but can't see my reply. I am still learning how to do things. This information is very useful and I shall keep referring back to it.
 
Thank you, I am feeling much more positive today.
Glad you are feeling better - I know a lot of people (including myself) feel a bit cr*p when they drop the level of carbs in your diet quite considerably - but it does improve things hugely long term. Its a case of readjusting what you want to eat - and as everyone says - eat to your meter - testing will show you what things you can and can't eat - porridge is one of these odd ones - some can eat it and some can't. I don't indulge myself (not a porridge fan even pre-diagnosis) - but I do eat oatcakes - no more than a couple at a time (and covered with full fat cream cheese and a bit of smoked salmon) as a snack when I get the munchies. Yum! It's not about what you can't eat - but finding what you can eat which won't hike your BS levels and which you enjoy! It makes it more likely you will stick to the right things.
 
I started yesterday. I halved the breakfast carbs, did away with rhem all together at lunch and had a moderate amount at dinner. Altogether about 60 for the day and I felt a lot better for it. My morning reading this morning was 4.8.

 
Well, rusty or not, for me that is the best most understandable explanation of what's going on. Thank's Sid. Now they just need to find a way to get these steroids down quickly.


Thanks Garway I did have a quick google after I posted that and found this that explains it in detail, the first few paragraphs especially, definitely worth a read and will help you understand what cortisol does and what steroids do.http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/111609p38.shtml
 

So far, so good. I wasn't able to get hold of the diabetes nurse and will have to wait untill after Easter to talk to her so at the moment I am winging it. I have done some serious carb cutting and I think I am round about 80 ish at the moment. I am hoping I can take some porridge and have halved it so far. I have found some high protien bread, Livlife and Hi Lo which means I can make a sandwich and have lots of veg and protein for dinner with a bit of carbohydrate thrown in. I am already feeling so much better and it must be better for the infection risk so I shall keep at it, blood sugars are much improved.
 
Update

I have kept to lower carbs and have felt a lot better for it. A typical days blood readings have been
before breakfast 4.8, before midday meal 7.8, before evening meal 5.8, and before bed 7.9
" 4.9 " 6.3 " 7.4 " 5.4
This is whilst taking 40 Gliclazide each morning.

I do have a problem in that I am still losing weight and I have been told to raise the Gliclazide to 80 in the morning and 'eat normally' as before. I tried it and my after midday meal readings were 13.1 and 16.2 one and two hours after which made me feel ill. Today I am going to experiment by taking 40 at breakfast and 40 at lunch to see if it makes any difference to the number of carbs I can tolerate. I seem pretty safe untill lunch time when the steroids, still high, click in, so my thinking is a small increase in carbs at lunch and dinner may stop me losing weight annd the additional Glicazide taken then will cope with the increase.

Thank you for everone's help, I really appreciate your advice and any further comments.
 
Let us know if your plan works.

Not really, I think I will have to do my own thing. Because of kidney damage I can't take too much protein so I am contemplating going full fat, lower protein, slightly higher carbs but still under 100 and stick to 40 gliclazide twice a day. Diabetic nurse rang today and seems quite happy with blood sugars of 10/11/12/14,but I'm not. I hope this is a sensible plan.
The good news is that My steroids are at last going to be reduced 5mg a fortnight untill I get down to 20 and the hope is I will feel much better as they go down but it may be a rough ride as I have been high dose so long.
 

You are right not to settle for the figures your nurse is happy with. I am sure you will get your levels lower than that, and that's good news about the steroids (nasty little villains of the piece..but sadly necessary in other ways)...that will only help. I hope you can get them reduced further. I was on 25g prednisolone for ages (the cause of my diabetes) and as it got reduced, two things happened - my blood sugar dropped and my the appetite which had been dramatically increased by the drug faded. It wasn't until I got the dosage down to 5mg that it stopped having an uncontrollable impact. Good luck.
 
I have just realised that I have no idea of how to start a new question. I got myself into a real mess last night and had a blood pressure of 185/105. At 8.52 it was 113/58 but between then and my high reading I realised I had not taken my second 40 gliclazide at lunch time so I took it then which was some time after my evening meal. Throughout the night I could not get my bp to return to normal which was very scary as I take Rivaroxaban. What I want to know is can Gliclazide cause high blood pressure? This morning, after taking all my tablets my blood pressure normalised after taking my steroids and having something to eat. Is Gliclazide known to raise blood pressure?

On twice a day Gliclazide eg. before breakfast 4.3, before midday meal 5.9, one hour after10.8, two hour after 8.9, before bed 4.8. I drink a lot of water. I am wondering if I should go back to one a day or stop it altogether. There is always going to be a mid afternoon rise with steroid induced hyperglycemia I think. Without Gliclazide I was losing weight, now it has stabilised.

I would appreciate any information that could throw a light on this.
 

Have you read the leaflet that comes with your tablets?
This is the on-line version
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/31622

It mentions that you may experience high blood pressure.

also http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/gliclazide/high blood pressure/
 

@Garway - Would you like this post transformed into a new thread for your query? I can do that for you, if that's what you would like.

Just let me know, but please do use my name with the @ symbol before it to ensure I receive a notification you've responded to me.
 

Hi. I was prescribed Gliclazide when first diagnosed. This was doubled after couple of weeks. I had been on meds for high blood pressure for years..and it made no difference at all. If it does increase BP, I would have expected to see some personal and very direct evidence of it...that said, we all differ...and there are lots of things which can raise BP (not least of all stress..and..including...inaccurate one off readings on BOP devices!). Sadly for me (or happily as it turns out), Gliclazide did very little to reduce my blood sugar levels either! This was not helped by a daily spike over a few hours from the steroids I was on. Reduction of the steroid and reduction of carbs in my diet did far far more for me than the Gliclazide. I would, however, suggest discussing it with your GP. I have very recently had high diastolic levels (ie. the bottom figure...c. 135/105) and have had my beta-blockers increased (ie. atenolol). I have been off blood pressure meds for about 18 months now. Not sure of the exact cause but I have had a number of small infections recently and I am on a lot of other meds (to prevent renal transplant graft rejection)...the one thing I can be sure hasn't caused it - is Gliclazide.
 
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