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God **** dawn phenomenon!!

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eveshamgal

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Location
Evesham
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I am really struggling with this whole dawn phenomenon thing!! This morning I woke up to sugars of 10.4. It's really getting me down as for the rest of the day my sugars are between 6-8 generally.

Last night I went Ceroc dancing and straight to bed when I got in after taking my tablet and having a snack of 3 oatcakes (4.6g of carbs in each) with a slice of cheese on each.

I really need to show I can get my hbA1c down from 9.6 as I dint want to go on insulin. Any help or advice out there?

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I was getting fasting blood sugars of 12 initially, though like you was much better during the day... It's not until I cut my carbs to around 50g a day that they very quickly dropped to the 5s. My diet now is hight fat, low carb, medium protein - and I never have any carbs in the evening; apart from an occasional glass of red ;-)
Stick at it and experiment a bit with what works for you as we're all different - you'll get there :-)


Diagnosed Type 2, 22nd Feb 2013
Hba1c 7.5
Three month trial of managing through diet & exercise - low-ish carb, pescatarian and attempting to become a runner ;-)
 
Almost 14g carb before bed is likely to put your blood glucose up overnight. Cheese with it will slow the process, but won't prevent it.It isn't necessarily DP.
I would have had the cheese without the crackers if I needed a late snack
Hana
 
It took me many weeks to get over the dawn effect. I always used to have a few slices of ryvita. I don't anymore and I am getting readings in the 5s now. Some people have a teaspoon of cider vinegar with 2 teaspoons of water. I do sometimes. Be sure to get cider vinegar without sugar, some of the fancy brands have added it. As an alternative, you could try freshly squeezed lemon juice, with the pulp. I sweeten it by adding it to zero cal lemonade.

The problem is you are different to everyone else and your own body will change its rythms as you alter your day time diet. We're all trying to hit a moving target. It takes time. Maybe try just one oatmeal biscuit at night, or try a ryvita. Lots of people have problems with oats despite them supposedly being slow release.

I was between 6 and 8 during the day for about 8 weeks. That went down and then after that my early morning readings went down. Keep it up and those 6s to 8s should become 5s to 7s eventually.
 
I take it during the day but neat.
I will give your method a try.
 
If you have been diagnosed a long time then ignore me, but if you are relatively newly diagnosed (say 3 months or less) then I would say, just hang in there. My morning sugars were definitely the last to go down. And I agree - very frustrating. But all of a sudden, after about three months of low carbing, they suddenly dropped to between 4.5 and 5.5. One thing that did seem to coincide with that was that I started having a small snack (NOT a carby snack like oatcakes) before bed. Usually a cube of cheese, or some nuts, or some pepperami. That seems to make a bit of a difference to mine. But I'd say 80% of it is just that they dropped on their own, in time, well after all the others did. My pre-lunch is still always the lowest by far.


Type 2 on Metformin, diagnosed Jan 2013, ultra low carber, Hba1C at diagnosis 8% (11mmol), now between 5 and 6 mmol. 20kg lost so far :)
 
Hi. I've been diagnosed for years but only recently starTed to take it seriously. It's a mighty confusing world out there but hoping to get things sorted out.

I don't usually eat oatcakes before bed to be fair so probably got worked up over nothing but I hate seeing my sugars that high at any time lol I usually have a mini peperami but had run out.

Usually in themorning it's 8-9 something then gets lower during the day. But this is still too high for my liking.

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Finzi said:
If you have been diagnosed a long time then ignore me, but if you are relatively newly diagnosed (say 3 months or less) then I would say, just hang in there. My morning sugars were definitely the last to go down. And I agree - very frustrating. But all of a sudden, after about three months of low carbing, they suddenly dropped to between 4.5 and 5.5. One thing that did seem to coincide with that was that I started having a small snack (NOT a carby snack like oatcakes) before bed. Usually a cube of cheese, or some nuts, or some pepperami. That seems to make a bit of a difference to mine. But I'd say 80% of it is just that they dropped on their own, in time, well after all the others did. My pre-lunch is still always the lowest by far.


Type 2 on Metformin, diagnosed Jan 2013, ultra low carber, Hba1C at diagnosis 8% (11mmol), now between 5 and 6 mmol. 20kg lost so far :)
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WOW 20 Kg lost so far! Well done, you!
I am looking at being 48 kg. At the moment 54 kg.
55 kg at diagnosis, lost 3kg when switching diet to LCHF the first week :D
But soon it climbed up again to 54 kg, not sure why.

Anyways, got diagnosed a little bit more than 3 weeks ago. So I am all new to this.
Struggling with FBG, but I am looking up that it will change after some more times :)

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Aini
 
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