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rip321a

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Well I am pre after a blood test... ( i think that's what you call it ) my doc recommended this site ..words failed me last week when i found out... but i am still confused as ever ..after going youtube crazy over last few days ..in what to believe and what not to. regarding the diet either lchf or what the NHS say.....but anyway greetings :)
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum :) To get you started, here is the information which we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. You will have plenty of questions so ask away and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hiya, welcome. You were lucky your GP pointed you to this site, and it sounds as if s/he will be supportive if you decide to stay with us. Best advice is to concentrate on what daisy1 has posted and ask questions. Most of us were baffled to start with, not to mention alarmed, sad and even angry.
 
Hi. Sounds like you have a reasonably cool doctor. They can be a wee bit stuck to the party line on diabetes, advising diets that don't necessarily do much to lower blood sugar. Mine wasn't so chuffed when I came off my pills and focused on diet instead, but it's working. That said, like everything else..some are better than others and you should always consult them...but remember..it's your body. I would advise that at this stage..nice n early...you should think about a food diary and reducing high carb intake (white bread, cereal chips etc. get used to looking at labels on food and compare carbohydrate content as well as sugar content in different foods (as unused carbs pretty much act like sugar). Do you have a testing meter, or can you ask for one? Recording readings, times, food intake..makes it all more do-able and puts you in control. use the site....it's very useful indeed. And.. don't worry..it's just another thing..
 
Stick with this site and definitely try LCHF and stay away from NHS Eatwell plate. Basically if we have a carbohydrate intolerance (which is what i think of pre diabetes as being) then eating' starchy carbs with every meal' is hardly going to help. I suffered about 3 weeks of food confusion after diagnosis until I found this site and the excellent help and support of the people here.

If your doctor recommended this site it sounds like he's a good one.
My doctor was totally uninterested in me trying to prevent becoming flu blown diabetic by diet and exercise and just wanted to put me on metformin and statins straight away. I said i didn't want to and she suggested I go away and think about it for a couple of weeks which luckily is when I found all the excellent advice on this site as well as reading endlessly about statins and the harm they do. Went back and found she was not open to discussion and has more or less washed her hands of me. Im looking forward to returning soon to show off the 9KG weight loss and much improved BG levels since following the low carb high fat lifestyle.

The most horrifying thing to me is that she was the diabetic specialist who runs the diabetic clinic so who knows how many people have been put straight on unnecessary meds and discouraged from testing (buy a BG meter - it's the bet investment in your own health you can make) and told to follow NHS diet advice and will no doubt indeed follow the progressive spiral into diabetes and complications - which can be avoided with the right lifestyle changes.

Welcome to the forum!
 
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