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'Good' cholesterol not always good (BBC reports)

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by cz_dave, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. cz_dave

    cz_dave Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Cholesterol dynamics even more complex than we thought, as BBC reports.
     
  2. SunnyExpat

    SunnyExpat Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    So, good cholesterol is good for most people, but for others, any high cholesterol is bad?
    Guess I'm better with lower cholesterol across the board then?
     
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  3. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    There is another article related to this story
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-34846832

    The BBC seems to be wavering on their support for Low Fat diets. Just a little.....
     
  4. dbr10

    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yes, even good cholesterol is bad now :)
     
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    andcol I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member
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    everything in moderation
     
  6. carol43

    carol43 Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    I am reading Dr Kendrick's book at the moment and I don't believe anything these 'scientists' are saying now.
     
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    SunnyExpat Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    My problem is like many on here, I don't believe Doctors either. :(
     
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  8. dbr10

    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    We're screwed.
     
  9. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    Lets raise a petition to ban cholesterol, eh? [LOL] Do it before Osborne taxes it on Wednesday.
     
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    Winnie53 Type 2 · BANNED

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    I'm not worried about this. The mutation occurs in 1 in 1,700 people. Additionally, those who have this mutation have HDL that are NOT doing as good of a job transporting LDL to the liver, which is it's job. If you think about it, that makes sense. The HDL is struggling to do it's job so the body creates more HDL to get LDL levels down.

    What I found more interesting was the Cambridge researcher's statements at the end of the article that Oldvatr posted, that some saturated fatty acids in the blood stream reduce heart disease risk, while other increase it.
     
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  11. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    Definitely a bucolic rant. Although I agree with the points raised, I did feel that this subject deserves a better treatment than was hiccup'd in this article. If I was a doubter, then this piece could well have nudged me back towards the BBC point of view.

    I do not know this author, but I think he has dented his reputation by publishing this blog after a party. He is obviously knowledgeable of this subject, but should have delivered it better. It reads a bit like a pseudoscience blog which he dercies.

    I read this as a personal POV blog, thats all. I have read much better dissertations on this subject.
     
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  13. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Expert

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    Maybe you'd prefer one of his more serious analyses?

     
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    Brunneria Other · Guru
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    Very irresponsible to use headlines like that, trying to scaremonger people out of trying to get good ratios on their cholesterol - especially when the gene mutation they are talking about affects a MINUTE percentage of the population.

    Some journalists are not worth the name!
     
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  15. SunnyExpat

    SunnyExpat Prefer not to say · Well-Known Member

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    He did appear briefly on here

    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/joseph-kraft-and-hidden-diabetes.83741/


    seems to be his style.
     
  16. Oldvatr

    Oldvatr Type 2 · Expert

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    I was hoping you would come up trumps. You have a very good reference library.
    This one's a winner (but I had to tick the informative box), and I guessed he was a more serious player than his blog portrayed. I am glad this link is here so his contribution is available for us all to read. I do not retract my comments on his blog, but I consider him as a champion,and I recommend this seminar as essential viewing.
     
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  17. ardneham

    ardneham Prediabetes · Member

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    Today I received a newsletter with this subject, probably much reviewed earlier:
    http://www.truthaboutabs.com/red-wine-benefits.html
     
  18. LucySW

    LucySW Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    There are doctors and doctors. Read widely and use those critical faculties. That BBC report is talking about a rare phenomenon with extremely high HDL levels. Not normalish ones that go up gradually with low carb and exercise. Not worth worrying about IMHO.
     
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