Grazer said:I agree with xyzzy and others. I cut down on my carbs and increased my fats to make it up because I had to eat something! Lots more cheese, cream etc. as well as massively improving my blood sugar levels, my cholesterol went from 5.5 to 3.8, I lost four inches of my waist and my BMI went to 22.5. I say ditch the things you KNOW are bad for you like the starchy carbs, don't worry about the things that some people say MAY be bad for you.
chalcedony said:Hi Cultivator. Saturated fat raises your blood cholesterol more than anything else in your diet.
http://robbwolf.com/2012/09/25/chris-kr ... isode-151/Chris Kresser said:It's kind of wash. I don't think it's clinically significant. And then we have
saturated fat, and it's a similar phenomenon. I don't have exact numbers
because I've never seen a study with the exact numbers, but we know
that short-term studies show that eating saturated fat does raise
cholesterol in the blood. And that was where the confusion started is all
the early studies were short-term.
So this whole idea that saturated fat raises cholesterol came from those
short-term studies. But longer-term studies have shown that for the
majority of people, eating saturated fat does not affect your blood
cholesterol levels. Again though, there's a group of hyper-responders
who -- when they eat saturated fat, their blood cholesterol levels go up.
And it's not completely clear now whether there are LDL particle
numbers going up or whether just their LDL cholesterol,
chalcedony said:Fat is a nutrient that helps our body function properly like supplying us with energy. It also helps other nutrients work. Remember that our body needs only small amounts of fat, and too much of the saturated type will increase cholesterol in the blood.There are different types of fat, and they have different effects on cholesterol and heart disease risk.
chalcedony said:You need to reduce the amount of saturated fat in your diet because it will effectively lower LDL "bad" cholesterol.
krazus said:Im sorry to have caused so many problems folks...
Ill know more tomorrow
xyzzy said:chalcedony said:Hi Cultivator. Saturated fat raises your blood cholesterol more than anything else in your diet.
So is there a diet book to follow this Diet? I have just started metformin hBA1c was 11% testing myself I've got down to 9 in the mornings but still need to get lower. BP is already being controlled by tablets and the cholesteral levels are nearing 5.
There is a part of me that says this can't possibly work, then another part of me that says I've got to eat something other than lettuce for the rest of my life so owhat can get me more healthy and keep me sane at the same time!
Appreciating the help that you guys are shelling out!
SS
I'm afraid I would have to disagree with you there simply from experience.
When I was diagnosed T2 last December with an hBA1c of 11.3% or 100 mmol in the new measurements I had followed a classic low fat 5 a day diet where everything was cooked from fresh for most of my life. At that point I had been on statins for two years and despite that my cholesterol level was in the high 5's.
After diagnosis and finding this forum I swapped to a low carb high fat diet similar to that recommended by the Swedish Health care system. My diet is now roughly 15% carbohydrates 65% fat and 20% protein. Of that 15% carbohydrate the vast majority of it is in the form of vegetables. The result after 6 months was an hBA1c reduced to 4.9% (yes FOUR point nine) or 30 mmol and a total cholesterol level of 3.9 with an Tot/HDL Ratio of 3.33. My blood pressure has reduced from 160/95 to 115/75. I've also lost just over 4 stone in weight and rarely feel hungry. I now have a BMI of 23.2 and am still losing weight at roughly a couple of pounds a month. I exercise by walking my dogs for around an hour a day exactly the same amount as I did prior to diagnosis.
I have my gp's and DSN's full support as they can see what I am doing obviously works. I've even come off the statins on my high fat diet at my gp's suggestion as I no longer need them in his opinion. My doctor says my diabetes is "in remission" but like me fully accepts I am not cured. For example if I eat more than around 50g (two level tablespoons) of rice or pasta my levels still spike well into double digits.
I consciously consume saturated fat. I eat cheese, eggs, leave the fat on meat, have bacon and eggs fried in a small amount of olive oil twice a week, eat a fruit salad with sugar free jelly with a good amount of double cream most days in fact yesterday I had a low carb very rich home made chocolate pudding with double cream. I eat roast potatoes when I eat any potatoes at all and put knobs of real butter on the piles of green veg I eat and when I occasionally eat a slice of Burgen bread I make sure it's covered in real butter too as that way it doesn't raise my levels that much. I never buy anything labelled low fat anymore so use full fat yoghurts etc. The only low fat product I still use is semi skimmed milk that I put in my tea and coffee simply because I don't like the taste of full fat milk. I have an Indian takeaway minus the Nan bread and minus most of the rice most weeks but up the calories and quantity by buying extra meat starters and vegetable based bhaji's
I avoid highly processed high carbohydrate foods and trans fats and have never felt healthier. Why do I eat saturated fat? Simply as a source of calories. My current diet works out around 2000 calories a day. If I didn't eat the saturated fat I would be on a starvation diet because I have dropped all the sugar and the vast majority of starchy foods from my diet.
For my diabetes I simply take Metformin and nothing else. My gp says I don't really need the Metformin but recommends I continue it for the health benefits it gives to your heart and not for any diabetic blood levels reducing reasons.
While you can undoubtedly lose weight on a low fat diet that's hardly the point when its carbs that raise your blood levels so adopting a low fat high carb diet may well make you slim but can quite easily lead you to end up as a thin but blind amputee on insulin. Adopting a low carb high fat diet is also scientifically proven countless times to just as successfully promote weight loss and has the benefit that you end up thin and able to see and use all your extremities. What will definitely kill you is a high fat high carb diet.
Many others on this site follow a very similar regime to myself and have done for years with identical results.
suffolkscouser said:xyzzy said:snip...
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=23279krazus said:Right, Just got back, and it is confirmed I am type II. :cry:
Got some figures from my HbA1c test. She said I was 95%, where as most people should be 40-50%...
My Colesterol was 6.7
My blood pressure is fan-bloody-tastic No requirement for meds
I have been given:
40mg of Simvastatin
500mg of Metformin (one tablet for one week, then if fine, 1 morn and 1 in afternoon, then after a week, 2 in morn and afternoon)
Got an appointment on thursday (Think its the nurse)
And another with doc on friday for MH problems.
Diet specialist, foot check and eye pic to follow.
Colesterol blood test in 2 months and HbA1c in 3 months.
:crazy:
comments?
krazus said:I am waiting to see what the diet nurse or DSN nurse say about it all, epsecially the diet thing.
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