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blackcat79

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Hi
Ive bn reading lots of posts and see that i need to get better help with BS control. My BS range is 9.5 - 21.8! Im on metformin x3 n 100mg Januvia. Yet dont reduce BS. So ive just started to a very low carb diet 2day n bar a mad reading after breakfast of geeck yogouht blueberries n a few oats BS was 19.5! From 10.7 fasting ive had 9.5 after meats n salad lunch 7.5 b4 tea which was homemade burgers cheese n salad yet to get BS but hoping lower than my norm. So it seems i cant handle carbs n so my question is will i b ok on less than 60-70g a day????
GP not bothered by my readings or hc1 test of 8.7% but have managed to get him to referre me to a clinic
for better help as i hsve no gallbladder so cant up my fat intake n i have a hitus hernia do my meds drive it n me mad! Would like to go on injections. They say im tpye 2 but i seem to have higher readings even with more meds added since first found out in May 12.
Many thanks

Sue x
 
Hi Blackcat and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members which should be helpful to you, along with the help other members will come along with soon. Carry on asking questions and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Thanks but im not that new n have had this info but cant get BS down even following 15g carb per meal my BS after tea was 11.7! Food just dosent like me it seems so have to find food with even less now i guess until i get to see some n tests to see what type i am :-(
Thankd tho
Sue
 
Hi. How old are you and are you overweight. It is possible that you are a late onset T1. Hopefully the referral to the clinic will provide the opportunity for the clinic to test you for T1. As you can't eat fats easily it is fairly urgent that you get more help and are possibly moved onto some insulin so you can get energy via more carbs.
 
Im 34 n a bit over weight so they say but ive not bn 9.5 st since i was 12. Im 14.8 st but big boned as no one believes im that heavy. Have lost 1.5 st since May 12 tho. Had breakfast of 12g n bloods b4 were 11.8 n now 19.5! Have got infection in mouth but bloods normally 16 after breakfast of 30g so mayb illness stopping meds working. Time will tell as on
meds for it. Just order ketone test strips as BS running high for days now.
Thanks
Sue
 
hi blackcat well hun to begin with you need to see a diabetes team at your local hospital they will include a dietician. the breakfast you described is two things the fruit is an immediate sugar rush and the oats ect are something that will release into your body slowly. you go to your docters and tell them in no uncertain terms you want to be reffered to your local hospital diabetes team. if this does not happen and you are still met with no help. phone the hospital switchboard and ask for diabetes clinic. explain what you need and aboit ylour blood sugars. tell them your docter is no help and you in desperate need of it. i hope this helps you need to see a dietician about your intake and the types of food ect. xxxxxxx

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Thanks doc has done n now got to wait 2-4 wks he says. Doesnt seem to matter what i eat bloods always higher than what should be. Last nite had homemade burgers salad n bit of cheese. B4 BS 7.8 hadnt eat for 5 hrs n bn running around but after 2 hr BS 11.9. total carbs of 10g. Making me feel so fed up n ill cos im trying so hard meds making me ill due to other health problems yet nothing is working. I asked do i have hypo well fat chance as 7.2 is the lowest i get :-( . Its all so hard n depressing.
Thanks tho
Sue
 
Hi, as Kezz says if your ketones go up together with blood sugars over, say, 25-30, then do go to A&E if it's before your doc's appointment. Have plenty of no-sugar fluids. Based on your young age and sugar readings I suspect LADA is a strong possibility.
 
Ketones r ok well they were last wk at docs just 5+ sugars. Ive ordered some tests so i can test at home. Yes other ppl have said that n due to the fact it was only picked up nov 11 with fasting BS of 8.7 but when did test at docs with sugar drink etc was 23.9!
That was May 12. Im on metformin x3 a day n 100mg januvia added last wk as gladizide wasnt doing anything lowered carbs to 15-20g per meal but still getting high BG of up to 19 at times n lows of 9.2or 7.2 if ive not eaten. Fasting blood never below 9.8 mainly 10 or 11 .
Been to A n E with BS of 27.4 but they werent that bother as came down to 19 befote i left. Yet the other wk after having wisdom teeth out i had to dischsrge myself as BS wasnt below 15.
Thanks tho im sure one day ill get there just hope b4 any damage is done tho.
Sue
 
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