Hba1c Of 55 Can It Got Back Without Meds

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Hi People

So i wanted to get some advice, based on my recent visit to the doctors,
I had been feeling quite drained recently, So i went to the doctors and did a blood test.
When i went back i was told that my Avg blood sugars were 7.2 hba1c of 55.
Nurse told me she was putting me on 2 metformin a day, I refused saying give me a chance to lower it through diet and excercise.
She did say that she thought i would not be able to achieve much.
im 6,3 and was 93.8 KG 1 week ago.
since then i have gone cold turkey, no sugar no carbs ( total low carb ) and lost 3.3kg,, start the Gym monday
blood sugars ( fasting ) are about 6.4/3 on avg
my question is can i get the back to normal in the long term, Or is this the new long term norm.

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Pav
 

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The short answer is Yes.

Hello and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the info pack offered to all newcomers.

Many, many people have reversed their Diabetes to the point of Remission. There is no cure for Diabetes but there are ways to manage the condition. Not everyone needs drugs though Metformin is the first line medication and lots of people take it.
 
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P.S Your Diabetes Nurse obviously hasn't any patients who have done ND or LCHF or the Mediterranean Diets. She needs to update her C.V.
 
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I did Hba1c of 91 to 47 in 80 days and was at 41 by 6 months, just about the same a year later - didn't even raise a sweat (I am just lucky - even though I was born on Friday the 13th at 13 minutes past one PM) Drs and nurses seem to have a strange attitude to diabetes - you brought it on yourself but you can't turn it around pretty much sums it up - and my attitude? You just watch me - excuse my dust.
 

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Forgot to say,, I'll be 50 in around ,6 weeks, So i dont want to take this into my older years so to speak.
@Resurgam what does your diet consist of mainly and what about gym routines
is it mainly cardio or strength ??

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P
 

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Address your diet first. You cannot outrun Diabetes.
 

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Diet has gone from sugar and carbs, to no sugar no carbs,, in 1 week,, and weight has fallen off,
im not that overweight,, so it a case of weight loss and fitness, i have an office job so spend all my time sitting.
 

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Forgot to say,, I'll be 50 in around ,6 weeks, So i dont want to take this into my older years so to speak.
@Resurgam what does your diet consist of mainly and what about gym routines
is it mainly cardio or strength ??
Thx
P
I am 67 now and have been doing more work - I service knitting machine so heaving them around is a fair workout - I don't bother with the gym but I do have a large trampoline in the garden. I also go out and play for the morris dancers - anonymous morris, in Poole, I help teaching longsword and maypole dancing.
I eat meat and fish, shellfish, eggs, cheese, nuts - lots of salads and low carb vege stirfries, coffee with cream, low sugar squash and some fizzy drinks, and various teas which I find sweet enough to drink plain. I just avoid high carb foods really, I have some chocolate, high cocoa content in small amounts and also berries, in small amounts with cream.
Once a month now I experiment with low carb baking - I have started with trying to make something breadlike - but my BG and Hba1c has been steady for a year or more and I would not advise too much experimentation at first, leave it until your metabolism is more robust again. I can eat more carbs now - but if I did so for any length of time I would put on weight just as easily as I used to do - not a good thought.
 
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Hello Pbahia and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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