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Hi everyone - I am not diabetic but I am about 5 stone overweight and visited my doctor yesterday. I have spent a lifetime yo yo dieting and am now 56 and finding it so hard to lose weight. I had a long chat with my GP yesterday and she suggested I look on this website and have a go at a low carb diet. Apparently my idea of healthy eating is not so healthy and she said that a lot of what I eat is a carb. This seems like a minefield to me but after looking through this website it doesn't seem too bad. I am a little unsure where to start and I have heard stories that cutting down on carbs can make you feel unwell - I was wondering if any of you could share how I should approach this. I work full-time and take my breakfast and lunch to work so need to find foods that I can eat at work and will keep me full. All help gratefully received - many thanks :)
 
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Hi everyone - I am not diabetic but I am about 5 stone overweight and visited my doctor yesterday. I have spent a lifetime yo yo dieting and am now 56 and finding it so hard to lose weight. I had a long chat with my GP yesterday and she suggested I look on this website and have a go at a low carb diet.

Really? GP's are sending patients here now. That is a first in my experience but very good to hear.

It's little controversial at the moment due to T1's thinking that dieting may not apply in their case but we have and introductory page and if I say @daisy1 then Daisy will post it here for you to read. Since your problem is just weight it should be fine. It is just the start of the story and may provoke questions. Ask those questions and someone will be along to answer them.
 

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Dr Atkins was right, and health care professionals have been giving bad advice all along.
If you stop eating so many carbs and instead have meat and fats - yes - fats, which have been the baddies for so long, then it is rather easy to lose weight.
 
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Hello and welcome. Try browsing Dietdoctor.com and Ditchthecarbs. Great low carb recipes for meals and snacks.

If you lower the amount of carbs in your diet gradually there is no reason to feel unwell. You must remember though that as you lower the carbs in your diet you will require healthy fats for energy. Good luck and well done in being proactive.
 
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Hi and welcome,

Yes, it is carbs that are the culprits, and carbs need even more carbs to make you feel full. Fats and protein are not the enemy, so the good news is you can now have bacon, eggs, a tomato and mushrooms without feeling guilty, and you will feel full. The more carbs you cut out, the more fat you need to maintain energy levels, so if you eat any low fat products throw them away and eat the real thing. However, you can't eat fat AND carbs.

Have a look at this site, which is very useful, with lists of foods, and recipes.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds

For packed lunches and breakfasts at work you could try cold meats, chicken thighs, eggs, cheese, tinned fish, salads, full fat unsweetened and unflavoured yogurts with a few berries such as strawberries or raspberries mixed in, nuts, avovados and so on.
 
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@andrneat

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

jayney27

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Hello and welcome,
Reducing your carb intake is certainly worth a try. As you have no doubt discovered most of us have adopted this way of eating to improve out blood glucose levels, for that purpose it works and as a massive plus most of us can also achieve weight loss too. I started reducing my carb intake at the time of diagnosis, not by a great deal to start with as I wasn’t aware of this site and the full facts and benefits at that time. I then lowered my intake and have seen fantastic results, just over 4 stone lost and blood sugars that are now at normal levels.
Ideas that you can take to work with you could be, cold meats like slices of ham with cheese or hard boiled eggs. For lunches salads with cold meats, cheeses, eggs, fish, homemade cauliflower soup is also a big favourite of mine.
 
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Hi @andrneat eating low carb can be a good way of controlling your blood glucose level as many on these forums will testify to. Do you have a meter to test which foods spike your levels and which don't.

You may have to buy your own, the meters themselves are often cheap or even free, but since you only buy the meter once (Ok you may replace after a few years) its the test strips costs that add up. SD codefree from Homehealth has some of the cheapest test strips and is used by many on the forum.

One thing you will need to get to grips with - eating more fats :woot: it took me a while to be able to do that as I thought I would gain weight - I didn't I lost weight so had to up the fat! and got good control of my glucose levels :)
 
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Hi @andrneat eating low carb can be a good way of controlling your blood glucose level as many on these forums will testify to. Do you have a meter to test which foods spike your levels and which don't.

You may have to buy your own, the meters themselves are often cheap or even free, but since you only buy the meter once (Ok you may replace after a few years) its the test strips costs that add up. SD codefree from Homehealth has some of the cheapest test strips and is used by many on the forum.

One thing you will need to get to grips with - eating more fats :woot: it took me a while to be able to do that as I thought I would gain weight - I didn't I lost weight so had to up the fat! and got good control of my glucose levels :)

Scmiama, @andrneat eat isn'tdiabetic, so there isn't quite the same need to test, although it could be enlightening.
 
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Hi everyone - I am not diabetic but I am about 5 stone overweight and visited my doctor yesterday. I have spent a lifetime yo yo dieting and am now 56 and finding it so hard to lose weight. I had a long chat with my GP yesterday and she suggested I look on this website and have a go at a low carb diet. Apparently my idea of healthy eating is not so healthy and she said that a lot of what I eat is a carb. This seems like a minefield to me but after looking through this website it doesn't seem too bad. I am a little unsure where to start and I have heard stories that cutting down on carbs can make you feel unwell - I was wondering if any of you could share how I should approach this. I work full-time and take my breakfast and lunch to work so need to find foods that I can eat at work and will keep me full. All help gratefully received - many thanks :)

Hi @andrneat ,

Welcome to the forum. Good news you're not diabetic & your doc seems a diamond..
It's just a question of finding a "new you." :)

Lower carbing doesn't have to be hum drum. Here's a link to help you decide, & try a few ideas on meals... https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/recipes

Good luck!
 
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Welcome to the forum @andrneat! Your GP sounds great, well done to her for suggesting you look at this forum.
A Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating does usually help with weight loss as well as reducing blood glucose levels.
Some people do feel a bit unwell when they start low carbing. It is the body experiencing withdrawal symptoms from the high amounts of carbs it has become used to, it's known as 'carb flu'. But it doesn't happen to everyone, and if you do get it, it usually passes after a week or two.