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Hello From The Diabetic 'Doctor'

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I'd reckon that although you're right, it would be tough to consistently eat a low calorie diet that would contain a large amount of calories. Carbohydrates and fats are our main source of calories. So by losing that valuables amount of calories, it led to the lethargy.

If you can abide by a low-carb diet and at the same time keep a good amount of calories then you should be fine (not forgetting other important nutrients e.g. fibre).
 
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I'd reckon that although you're right, it would be tough to consistently eat a low calorie diet that would contain a large amount of calories.
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Agreed! :lol:
But isn't hunger linked by a feedback loop to energy expenditure? I have absolutely no problem knocking off 2500-3000 KCal every day eating a properly balanced diet i.e. nutrient dense meat, fish, eggs, dairy, nuts, vegetables etc. As far as I can figure out, carbohydrates are the only non-essential part of the human diet?

fergus
 
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Are you for real? Carbohydrates are broken down in glucose. Now glucose in excess amounts is very bad (did you know that it can cause diabetes? :shock: ) but without glucose the cells in the body can't respire. They burn their stores of fat and to conserve the energy burnt, they slow down your metabolism and that makes you lethargic (shucks methinks I was correct before), then when all the available fat is gone, the body turns to the last available source of energy, muscle tissue and burns that.

So your idea that carbohydrates are the only non-essential component are so far off the mark that it's scary.
 
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Please tell me you're a doctor of engineering or philosophy. :D
 
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I'll rattle through some of the physiological reasons why the Kreb's Cycle cannot produce enough glucose to satisfy the needs of the human body:

-Conversion from amino acid to glucose is secondary to the Kreb's Cycle of glucose converting to energy.

-The ratio of amino acid to glucose is low, so naturally less energy is going to be produced.

-Amino acids aren't stored in the body unless in proteins. So you would have to continuously eat meat to keep producing energy.

If you want any more, then I'd be happy to keep posting.
 
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So your idea that carbohydrates are the only non-essential component are so far off the mark that it's scary.
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Better watch out Dr. H, your peers beg to differ!

“There are three kinds of foods – fats proteins and carbohydrates. All of these provide calories. But the carbohydrates provide calories and nothing else. They have none of the essential elements to build up or to repair the tissues of the body. A man given carbohydrates alone, however liberally, would starve to death on calories. The body must have proteins and animal fats. It has no need for carbohydrates, and, given the two essential foodstuffs, it can get all the calories it needs from them.’
Sir Heneage Ogilvie, former vice-president of the Royal Collage of Surgeons, London
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fergus
 
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Do they? And I would imagine then that they would recommend that we all aim for a low-carb diet. I mean, if they don't do anything in the body and because they're converted into glucose they're directly linked to heart disease, diabetes, some forms of cancer, atherosclerosis and other carbohydrate related illnesses.

So, I am instantly converted to this ideology, I mean, why haven't they told me before that carbohydrates=death? I didn't read about it... Or hear it on the news... Maybe I'm just not as worldly as I thought I was... Or maybe, it's just a load of evangelical nonsense.

Which do you think it it?
 
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Dr H,on this forum there are some highly experienced and very knowledgeable diabetics.Most of them know far more than some doctors on the subject,I suggest that you go away and check out some of these facts before coming out with phrases such as evangelical nonsense !!
 
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Take a good look at all the research Dr. H, and decide for yourself. I did.

All the best

fergus
 
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Perhaps you should check with your friends at The Royal College of Surgeons, they might just have some more sensible answers than the ones you come up with !! :D
 
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See that's the thing that niggles me.

I remember reading that the MMR jab caused autism in children. And this became quite widespread belief, and to this day some parents won't immunize their children.

The 'research' that led to this discovery was funded by a dodgy scientist and had been bankrolled by an anti-MMR group.

Research is never unbiased and should always be looked on with suspicion.

Also, I thought this little quote was quite hilarious:
fergus said:
Diabetes.co.uk has no agenda to promote any particular dietary approach towards controlling diabetes.
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Especially after a little bit of statistical analysis reveals this:

- The low carbs section has 299 topics and 3759 views.
- Whereas the non-low carbs section has 14 topics and 328 views.
- But wait, non-low carbs encompasses every other diet, so why does it have far fewer topics and views?
-Ah, alas. I see that all the mods that are so uppety about my blatant bashing of low-carb diets are all avid fans.
-So does that give them the power to lock and ban topics/users that aren't 'compliant' with the view that all carbs are bad? Yes. It does.
-Does that mean that the site does indeed endorse low-carb diets? Obviously.
-So, does this mean that at some point in the future I may be banned? Most likely.

Well, those were some serious statistical breakdowns, enjoy and digest. And please, if you do find any reputable evidence, feel free to share, because I haven't found anything I would trust.

Enjoy
 
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Dr H.

For your information I am one of the Moderators you malign. I am not a low carb fan, I am a low GI fan, I have reduced my carbs and know that that works.

At least now we have your true colours and can see what your agenda was.

Please spread your propoganda elsewhere.
 
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Hi Doc H
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-So does that give them the power to lock and ban topics/users that aren't 'compliant' with the view that all carbs are bad? Yes. It does.
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I think if you look back through the forum history you will find the opposite is true, far more low carbers have been banned and have had topics locked.

Graham
 
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This forum is here to help and support ALL diabetics.In my opinion your posts neither help nor support anybody.You are yourself a diabetic who obviously needs some guidance with your diabetes.
To come on here using the title of doctor and giving at best mediocre advice is not something that we subscribe to.
If you wish to get advice on your diabetes then feel free but please do not come here maligning the forum.
 
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Am I the only one who can smell troll here? Best treatment for trolls is no response at all.

Count to 10 folks! Or higher if 10 just isn't enough.
 
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Propaganda? I just don't think that you're giving people the full information. You don't mention that most diabetics can quite happily control their diabetes with cutting out sugar. In fact, I didn't even know that there was a debate raging until I found this forum, and you ***** and moan about the NHS giving bad advice, look at yourselves.

You're advising people to basically go onto the Atkin's diet, yeah it's great for losing weight, but eventually you're body's needs catch up to you and its bad.

I honestly don't have a problem with lower carbohydrate diets, in fact they're vitally important for some people. But some of you guys are wanting people to be eating 20-40g of carbohydrates daily. That's just crazy, and all this talk of Kreb Cycles and ketones doesn't take away from the fact that glucose releases far more ATP and as a result is needed in the body.

And I never gave diabetic advice, except from experience. I have stressed the point that I am a surgeon, I cut and I suture. Occasionally I might need to delve back into some anatomy, but apart from that I only have my medical school education.

And no, I am not a troll. I have no ulterior motive so what could I possibly gain from it?
 
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I honestly don't have a problem with lower carbohydrate diets, in fact they're vitally important for some people
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At least we agree on that then!! That is the whole point of controlling diabetes.Yes some go as low as 30-40gm carbs but not everybody. Go and read some more of the forum !!
 
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