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Hello, my names Pete.

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
Just been diagnosed as having type 2 diabetis this afternoon. Not happy and a bit worried to say the least.
Be nice to chat with other sufferes and learn more about it.
Looking forward to getting to know you all. Pete.
 
Hello Pete. Welcome to the forum. Im not an expert just a beginner but have found the site to be really helpful with lots of kind knowledgeable people. :)
 
Hello Pete and welcome to the forum :)

To help you to get to know what you need to know about diabetes, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Other members will follow with lots of helpful information.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Just been diagnosed as having type 2 diabetis this afternoon. Not happy and a bit worried to say the least.
Be nice to chat with other sufferes and learn more about it.
Looking forward to getting to know you all. Pete.


Hey Pete you found us here mate.Welcome aboard and im sure you will gleen some very useful tips from this site they are a bunch a great people all out to help. :)
 
Hello Pete and welcome to the forum :)

To help you to get to know what you need to know about diabetes, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Other members will follow with lots of helpful information.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hey Pete you found us here mate.Welcome aboard and im sure you will gleen some very useful tips from this site they are a bunch a great people all out to help. :)

'Ello matey, thanks for giving me the link to this site.
I didn't know you had only recently been diagnosed with diabetes. I have to see the nurse for an hour long appointment on 23rd Sept. She will tell me whats what I guess.
My doctor put the wind up me by saying EVERYONE who gets diabetes eventually has to go on insulin injections and thats just not true I'm told.
See you on here now as well as CUK and facebook mate. :p
 
Hi Pete, welcome.
 
Hi Pete and welcome to our little community. You'll get lots of help and advice from us. I was diagnosed 4 years ago and this site was a real saver of my sanity. I hope the appt with the diabetic nurse goes ok. It's a lot to take in so it may help to take a few notes. You will probably be sent on a NHS DESMOMD course to help you manage the condition. The main thing they will trot out is the carbs with every meal. Check out the low carb threads on this site and you'll see that carbs are not the be all and end all of your diet. Good luck on the journey (oh dear, that sounds a bit X Factor)
 
Hi Pete and welcome to our little community. You'll get lots of help and advice from us. I was diagnosed 4 years ago and this site was a real saver of my sanity. I hope the appt with the diabetic nurse goes ok. It's a lot to take in so it may help to take a few notes. You will probably be sent on a NHS DESMOMD course to help you manage the condition. The main thing they will trot out is the carbs with every meal. Check out the low carb threads on this site and you'll see that carbs are not the be all and end all of your diet. Good luck on the journey (oh dear, that sounds a bit X Factor)

Thanks Chris, not looking forward having to diet after a lifetime of eating anything I liked. Thanks for the welcome. :)
 
'Ello matey, thanks for giving me the link to this site.
I didn't know you had only recently been diagnosed with diabetes. I have to see the nurse for an hour long appointment on 23rd Sept. She will tell me whats what I guess.
My doctor put the wind up me by saying EVERYONE who gets diabetes eventually has to go on insulin injections and thats just not true I'm told.
See you on here now as well as CUK and facebook mate. :p

Hi Pete and welcome,

Your doctor was wrong and was scare mongering. If you have the motivation and determination you can control this disease and stay off insulin, but it does require effort. There are several Type 2's on this forum that have actually come off insulin, and many others that have reduced all meds, even down to no meds at all, but they have all worked hard to do this. Diet is the key. Have a good browse round, read all the low carb threads and others, then try to chose a diet plan that suits you.

Your first course of action must be to obtain a home testing kit. You will be very lucky if your nurse gives you one, most don't, but you can ask. Failing that, you can buy one yourself as most of us have had to do. With such a kit you can learn which foods you can or can't cope with, because we are all different with what our bodies can handle.

Good luck, and ask as many questions as you like.
 
Hi Pete and welcome,

Your doctor was wrong and was scare mongering. If you have the motivation and determination you can control this disease and stay off insulin, but it does require effort. There are several Type 2's on this forum that have actually come off insulin, and many others that have reduced all meds, even down to no meds at all, but they have all worked hard to do this. Diet is the key. Have a good browse round, read all the low carb threads and others, then try to chose a diet plan that suits you.

Your first course of action must be to obtain a home testing kit. You will be very lucky if your nurse gives you one, most don't, but you can ask. Failing that, you can buy one yourself as most of us have had to do. With such a kit you can learn which foods you can or can't cope with, because we are all different with what our bodies can handle.

Good luck, and ask as many questions as you like.

Thanks Bluetit, I'll probably have to buy testing kit like I just had to buy a blood pressure monitor as the surgery couldn't provide me with one.
This is all new to me and bewildering. Many thanks for the support, I shall be looking around the forum when I get more time. :stop:
 
'Ello matey, thanks for giving me the link to this site.
I didn't know you had only recently been diagnosed with diabetes. I have to see the nurse for an hour long appointment on 23rd Sept. She will tell me whats what I guess.
My doctor put the wind up me by saying EVERYONE who gets diabetes eventually has to go on insulin injections and thats just not true I'm told.
See you on here now as well as CUK and facebook mate. :p


Yeah i was diagnosed 7th August.The first app with the nurse took just 30 mins to do going through paperwork etc and she gave me a list of what to eat and what to steer clear of.Not everyone goes on Insulin thats rubbish that your doctor told you.I think it depends on what your Hba1c readings are like.Mine were pretty low so i didnt need to be put on insulin or tablets.Just watch what you eat and eat sensibly and exercise regularly and you should be fine.Ive lost 3kg in a month im dead chuffed at that.Anyways feel free to read all the posts on here and ask questions people will be incredibly supportive towards you mate.Good luck with the nurse appointment.Hope you dont have to have insulin or meds :)


You'll be put on the diabetic register as well which means you maybe able to have your toenails cut by the chiropodist my app with em is 25th Sept to have me toenails cut etc
 
Thanks Bluetit, I'll probably have to buy testing kit like I just had to buy a blood pressure monitor as the surgery couldn't provide me with one.
This is all new to me and bewildering. Many thanks for the support, I shall be looking around the forum when I get more time. :stop:


Theres also a General chat forum where you can talk about almost anything and everything.Plus a Football one too if you are like me and a footy lover lol
 
Hello Painter Pete.
You might be in for a few shocks and pleasant surprises.
Pleasant surprises as in diet like my diet on which I'm losing weight controlling my blood sugars meant for breakfast this morning I had sausage bacon egg and fried bread ... not bad aye.
Shocks as in your doctor may be a complete ignorant ass when it comes to diabetes and may try and kill you!!!!!
Not on purpose of course but just because he's an ignorant ass.
 
hello there, I understand you being a bit scared as I was as well at first still am at times but now you have found this forum am sure many will be able to help and guide you...Welcome to the forum :)
 
Love the name, welcome to the forum Pete :)

A name I aquired right from a young lad Noblehead and I was a Master Painter & Decorator for fifty years.
I was called Peter the Painter from a very young age as I was always painting pictures. I wanted to be an artist, but never had any encouragement, so did the next best thing, or the best thing as it turned out. I loved the trade and the building trade itself.
Thanks for the welcome!:stop:
 
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