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kittypoker

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Hi everyone. My name is Sue, usually known as Kitty online.I'm 64 and retired, no rugrats. I'm not diabetic but avoiding it by the skin of my teeth, according to the GP, so thought I'd come here to get more information. As you are all very well aware, that diagnosis is a life changer. I carry several hints - long-term morbid obesity, terrible diet, sedentary lifestyle. There are no genetic indicators, which may be the reason for the swerve as I suspect that's a big component.

My best friend was a T2 who relied on drugs to control everything, from diabetes to blood pressure to cholesterol. Not with us any more due to pancreatic cancer but he made the same terrible HCLF dietary choices hubby and I have been making for nearly 40 years and we've decided that changes are necessary. Well, I decided and he said okay because he's a very nice and amenable man. :happy: No statins for us.

LCHF rules! Six months ago I was 17 stone (107kg) and now I'm 13st 6lb (85kg). I need another test but hopefully have headed off the lurking T2 and cardiac events. I'm only 5'1" and need to lose another 50lb but it's a good start.

Oh, and for anyone in north Essex/south Suffolk - Lidl's in Clacton has the rolls!
 

kittypoker

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Thank you. I've been lurking here for a while and it's so nice to have a welcome.
 
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Prem51

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Hi @kittypoker and welcome to the forum. It's good to hear that LCHF has been working for you. The weight loss is great, and I expect your next test will show a reduction with the HbA1c levels too.
Do you have a blood sugar meter and test yourself?
 

kittypoker

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Hi @kittypoker and welcome to the forum. It's good to hear that LCHF has been working for you. The weight loss is great, and I expect your next test will show a reduction with the HbA1c levels too.
Do you have a blood sugar meter and test yourself?

I don't have a meter as I'm not diabetic. If my next test shows levels in the diabetic range, be assured I will get a meter and test regularly. One of the many things I've learned from this forum is the importance of test, test, test.
 

kittypoker

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Hi @kittypoker and welcome to the forum. It's good to hear that LCHF has been working for you. The weight loss is great, and I expect your next test will show a reduction with the HbA1c levels too.
Do you have a blood sugar meter and test yourself?

Forgot to say: Thank you so much for the welcome and LCHF has changed my life. Healthier and happier. :joyful:
 

Kittylitter

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Hi everyone. My name is Sue, usually known as Kitty online.I'm 64 and retired, no rugrats. I'm not diabetic but avoiding it by the skin of my teeth, according to the GP, so thought I'd come here to get more information. As you are all very well aware, that diagnosis is a life changer. I carry several hints - long-term morbid obesity, terrible diet, sedentary lifestyle. There are no genetic indicators, which may be the reason for the swerve as I suspect that's a big component.

My best friend was a T2 who relied on drugs to control everything, from diabetes to blood pressure to cholesterol. Not with us any more due to pancreatic cancer but he made the same terrible HCLF dietary choices hubby and I have been making for nearly 40 years and we've decided that changes are necessary. Well, I decided and he said okay because he's a very nice and amenable man. :happy: No statins for us.

LCHF rules! Six months ago I was 17 stone (107kg) and now I'm 13st 6lb (85kg). I need another test but hopefully have headed off the lurking T2 and cardiac events. I'm only 5'1" and need to lose another 50lb but it's a good start.

Oh, and for anyone in north Essex/south Suffolk - Lidl's in Clacton has the rolls!
Hi Kittypoker - It's Kittylitter here! I think we are in the same position, I am just one point off pre-diabetic, but my GP says my numbers are fine, so I have taken things into my own hands to prevent getting diabetic numbers, have given up sugar in my tea, and eating low carb, it has only been a couple of days for me, and the weight is coming off at approx 1/2 pound a day for the first time ever! Like you I had a bad diet previously, and no genetic links that I know of, so just to say welcome, and I look fwd to keeping up with your posts.
 

kittypoker

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Hi Kittypoker - It's Kittylitter here! I think we are in the same position, I am just one point off pre-diabetic, but my GP says my numbers are fine, so I have taken things into my own hands to prevent getting diabetic numbers, have given up sugar in my tea, and eating low carb, it has only been a couple of days for me, and the weight is coming off at approx 1/2 pound a day for the first time ever! Like you I had a bad diet previously, and no genetic links that I know of, so just to say welcome, and I look fwd to keeping up with your posts.

Hi @Kittylitter! What a funny coincidence. Thanks so much for the welcome and we can support one another in our mutual attempt to head off a diagnosis and sort out our lifestyles. Better to be proactive when the possibility is first raised rather than hang around hoping it doesn't happen.

Well done on the weight loss. I've been very strict, cut down to under 20g of carbs a day with no cheating in 6 months except one pint of beer on my birthday, half a (non-Lidl) bread roll and a mouthful of spaghetti. Quite honestly, I prefer courgetti. :D Intermittent fasting is also good - once you're properly fat adapted, serious hunger is a thing of the past and it's easy to skip a few meals here and there.
 
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Ange G

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Hi kitties (both of you) I wish I had the sense 10 years ago aged 41 when my GP told me that I was prediabetic to have changed my outlook and diet, maybe my GP should have told me, maybe I should have educated myself. Kitty litter I believe we are the same age( 51). I was not given any advice about diabetes back then and maybe if I had had it spelt out, I would have taken my readings more seriously as both of you have. I salute you both for being proactive in making changes now, I wish I knew then what I know now about the seriousness of the disease. Best wishes to both of you in warding off diabetes, and best wishes to all for good health and happiness.
 

Kittylitter

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Hi @Kittylitter! What a funny coincidence. Thanks so much for the welcome and we can support one another in our mutual attempt to head off a diagnosis and sort out our lifestyles. Better to be proactive when the possibility is first raised rather than hang around hoping it doesn't happen.

Well done on the weight loss. I've been very strict, cut down to under 20g of carbs a day with no cheating in 6 months except one pint of beer on my birthday, half a (non-Lidl) bread roll and a mouthful of spaghetti. Quite honestly, I prefer courgetti. :D Intermittent fasting is also good - once you're properly fat adapted, serious hunger is a thing of the past and it's easy to skip a few meals here and there.
Yes we will take action now to prevent things becoming worse.
 
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Kittylitter

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Hi kitties (both of you) I wish I had the sense 10 years ago aged 41 when my GP told me that I was prediabetic to have changed my outlook and diet, maybe my GP should have told me, maybe I should have educated myself. Kitty litter I believe we are the same age( 51). I was not given any advice about diabetes back then and maybe if I had had it spelt out, I would have taken my readings more seriously as both of you have. I salute you both for being proactive in making changes now, I wish I knew then what I know now about the seriousness of the disease. Best wishes to both of you in warding off diabetes, and best wishes to all for good health and happiness.
Ange - do not blame yourself, the past is the past, we all hear the doctors and tv documentaries going on about diet and exercise blah blah, and we don't tend to take much notice, they are like nagging parents to teens in one ear, and out of the other, we don't see the importance. You also have to be ready mentally to be able to deal with this, so what you are doing now is what matters. You are doing your best, so chin up and keep going.
 

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@kittypoker

Hello Sue and welcome to the forum :) Congratulations on your weight loss - I hope it will continue to be as successful. To help you to continue to avoid diabetes, here is the basic information we give to new members. It gives information on low carbing and a link to the Low Carb Program which you could try. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

callyandy

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Hello to Kitties et al. Tho my avatar is we puppy Charley, i have a puddykins too, Ruby Tuesday. Anyway, I started attending my prediabetic course on 30 September, my initial hbA1c reading was 51.7%, so too late, diabetic. Anyway, I'm still on the course and enjoying the benefits of LCHF.

To all above, welcome and great effort so far. Keep up the good work.:joyful:
 

kittypoker

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Hi kitties (both of you) I wish I had the sense 10 years ago aged 41 when my GP told me that I was prediabetic to have changed my outlook and diet, maybe my GP should have told me, maybe I should have educated myself. Kitty litter I believe we are the same age( 51). I was not given any advice about diabetes back then and maybe if I had had it spelt out, I would have taken my readings more seriously as both of you have. I salute you both for being proactive in making changes now, I wish I knew then what I know now about the seriousness of the disease. Best wishes to both of you in warding off diabetes, and best wishes to all for good health and happiness.

Apologies for not responding earlier, a stinking cold has got in the way of almost everything!

Don't blame yourself, @Ange G. Ten years ago I didn't have had a clue about the seriousness of diabetes and potential complications either, only started to investigate when my friend was diagnosed. We're not medically trained and should be given more information, and stronger warnings, by our HCP's.

Thank you so much for the good wishes and the same to you! :D
 
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kittypoker

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Hello to Kitties et al. Tho my avatar is we puppy Charley, i have a puddykins too, Ruby Tuesday. Anyway, I started attending my prediabetic course on 30 September, my initial hbA1c reading was 51.7%, so too late, diabetic. Anyway, I'm still on the course and enjoying the benefits of LCHF.

To all above, welcome and great effort so far. Keep up the good work.:joyful:

@callyandy Aww, Charley is gorgeous and I bet Ruby Tuesday is too! Nothing like a pup and puddy to make a house a home. :happy:

You know, we can all say 'I wish' and 'what if' but the true test is to make the best of the hand you're dealt, which is exactly what you're doing. As you say, LCHF has lots of health benefits so we've made a great choice. :happy:
 
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kittypoker

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@kittypoker

Hello Sue and welcome to the forum :) Congratulations on your weight loss - I hope it will continue to be as successful. To help you to continue to avoid diabetes, here is the basic information we give to new members. It gives information on low carbing and a link to the Low Carb Program which you could try. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Thank you @daisy1. Excellent information here.
 

Chasida

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Thank you! I won't have much to contribute except how to avoid carbs and stay optimistic. :)
Hey as far as I'm concerned that's a LOT as I'm forever trying to find the right way with carbs. Well done on your fab weight loss already x