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shelleyd62

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Hi I’m new to this forum. I’m a 56 year old woman, 5’6” 10st 5lb. Sorry, this might be a long post. Last week I had a cholesterol blood test. Purely because I thought it would be a good thing to do at my age. When I went the phlebotomist asked if it was for blood sugar/diabetes test. I said no cholesterol but said half joking maybe I could have BOGOF as there is diabetes in my family and she agreed. When I was tested a year or so ago it came back as fine. Got the cholesterol result first and was told at 6.7 it was high. So bit of a shock. Then got blood sugar back and it was 42 mmol/mol and I got sheets about pre-diabetes. I did fast for 12 hours before the blood test but I’d eaten badly the day before so I don’t know if this could still affect the readings the following day. I have tried to do research and some sites say the blood sugar figure is okay but my doctor is saying it’s too high. Can anyone tell me is this figure high? What should it ideally be? All this had come as a bit of a shock. I go through phases with eating - sometimes I am really good about healthy eating and sometimes I eat rubbish but I’ve been a bit complacent because my weight is ok - would like to be half a stone lighter I suppose - and I do a fair bit of exercise.
 
I'm assume that the 42 was an hba1c (converts to 6 if you're measuring as a %). Yes, that is on the high side of normal, and as it's a measure of your average blood sugar for the last 3 months it won't be affected by what you've been doing for the last 24 or 48 hours. You're actually at the borderline between "normal" and "prediabetic" so there's definitely no need to panic, but maybe keep testing and watch what you eat a little.

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HbA1c test for diabetes diagnosis
An HbA1c test does not directly measure the level of blood glucose, however, the result of the test is influenced by how high or low your blood glucose levels have tended to be over a period of 2 to 3 months.

Indications of diabetes or prediabetes are given under the following conditions:

  • Normal: Below 42 mmol/mol (6.0%)
  • Prediabetes: 42 to 47 mmol/mol (6.0 to 6.4%)
  • Diabetes: 48 mmol/mol (6.5% or over)
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Bear in mind that an hba1c is not an exact science, some people read high or low because of certain blood conditions, and really you'd need to see a pattern of high blood sugars to get a diagnosis of pre-diabetes, let alone diabetes. So I suspect your doctor will want to keep monitoring your hba1c to see if it goes up or down.

I'll tag @daisy1 to give you the basic facts about diabetes, anyway, but it's not at all clear you'll need them. In a nutshell, T2 diabetics (if you're T1 you'll find out sooner rather than later) don't process carbs well, so you'll want to limit them. Obvious carbs are soft drinks, cakes and sweets, less obvious ones are pasta, rice, bread and potatoes. Good luck.
 
Hi Shelley, Ellie has addressed your HbA1c reading and I agree as you are just into the pre diabetic level you can easily get that back into non diabetic range with lowering your carb intake aswell as obvious sugar.
However your cholesterol level is meaningless without having a breakdown of HDL, LDL and triglycerides, as you need to be able to work out the ratios. @bulkbiker will help explain more.
 
Got the cholesterol result first and was told at 6.7 it was high
Hi Shelley as @Rachox said the total cholesterol number is a bit of a red herring and it would be useful if you had the breakdown. As you had fasted beforehand there is a chance that the numbers are available but that the doc simply didn't tell you what they were. Maybe go back to the surgery and ask for a printout of your test results. if you can get the breakdown of the cholesterol numbers I'd be happy to do a bit of analysis.
Your HbA1c of 42 is at the very start f the "prediabetes" level so a bit of dietary tweaking should mean that you can turn that one around. Once you've got Daisy's intro the please come back with any questions you may have.
in the meantime hello and welcome!
 
@shelleyd62
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Got the cholesterol result first and was told at 6.7 it was high.
Hi shelley, Cholesterol isn't the big bad wolf that we've been told it is.

This is what we have been trained to think
" Cholesterol causes hart attacks because, 'everybody' with a heart attack has high cholesterol. " :bookworm:
That's like saying
"Every time there is a fire there are always fire fighters around SO fire fighters must be starting the fire." :banghead:

Now think of it this way.
IF you "key" your car door, put a dirty great big scratch down one side, rust will start to build up.
Sugar is the "key" in this situation and Cholesterol is the rust.

And that's how it works in the body with out going into extensive detail keeping your blood sugars down is like Not "keying" your car door.
The cholesterol does not build up in the blood vessels and cause a heart attack. :joyful:

Daisy's post above will show you how to get started on a few simple tweaks to your diet to keep you're blood sugars down. This should help you loose weight too if that's something your after (loosing weight will increase your cholesterol for a couple of months nothing to worry about) and then you should find that your cholesterol has been reduced also.

So its a win win. Lower blood sugar, lower cholesterol and you get to go shopping to as you are gona need some new outfits. ;)
:bag:
 
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