Help ! Carb Problems

MoorMike

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I cannot get help from my doctor.
I am a 70 year old male and have suffered from hypoglycemia for years. After gaining so much weight, and causing high BP, high Cholesterol, among other things, I lost so much weight and put my readings back into the normal level after going on a strict low carb diet. I am now unable to eat any carbs at all now without going into a deep sleep for hours, and the weight goes back on. The H1 test shows that i am pre diabetic, blood tests show 6.2 fasting and anything up to 12 after ingesting carbs. Doctor tells me that i am not diabetic and not to test blood. I cannot handle eating a 100% protein diet and cannot eat any carbs. Is there any help out there ! Shall i just eat carbs, get obese again and force the issue?
 

Terrytiddy

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Hi @MoorMike welcome to the group. I will tag @daisy1 for her welcome pack. Why don't you try the Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) way of eating? You could also look at fasting. A lot of members have used this way of eating with very good results. There is plenty of information on different threads on this forum. You are in the right place for help, advice and support so any questions just ask away:)
 

MoorMike

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Many thanks for your quick reply. It is good to know that there is someone out there that can help. In answer to your great suggestion, i guess im asking why it should be that i now cannot tolerate any carbs at all and also what are the thoughts about eating nothing but proteins and fats. I cannot tolerate any fruit or most vegetables. What an existence and is it good for us ?
 

Goonergal

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Many thanks for your quick reply. It is good to know that there is someone out there that can help. In answer to your great suggestion, i guess im asking why it should be that i now cannot tolerate any carbs at all and also what are the thoughts about eating nothing but proteins and fats. I cannot tolerate any fruit or most vegetables. What an existence and is it good for us ?

You might find this thread started by @bulkbiker helpful. Hopefully he’ll also be along with some thoughts - very knowledgeable chap

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/carnivory-an-interesting-video.154157/

Also tagging @Brunneria who may have some useful insights.

I’ve only tried zero carb a couple of times for short periods: always end up wanting nuts/high cocoa chocolate and I do enjoy veggies, although happy not to eat them very often.

Hope you find a solution.
 

Rokaab

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Just a question do you know what your BS is like when you've fallen asleep after carbs - ie. can your wife do a blood test on you just to check to see if you are indeed having a hypo, if you are indeed having one/many it could be reactive hypoglycaemia - which is not diabetes - though there is a subforum for it in these forums. Though your post says you go upto 12 so I'm slightly confused
 

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May I ask a couple of questions, please? Do you know the result of your HbA1c tests? And do you count the number of carbs (in grams) per day that you have?

My daughter in law hails from Devon and my first thought on reading your thread titles was 'How lucky to be able to buy fresh, local Devonshire Clotted Cream all the time'. Make the most of this tasty resource.
 
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bulkbiker

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hi @MoorMike when you say you can't eat any carbs at all.. what are you eating exactly.. also its well night impossible to eat a 100% protein diet (in fact completely impossible) so give us some ideas of what you are eating and we can see if there is anything that stands out.
 

daisy1

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@MoorMike

Hello MoorMike and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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