derry60
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No I have only an Aldi, and they don't sell them. I am not really getting bored with salmon, meat,bacon..Although I won't eat too much bacon as that is processed. Its not having some carbs with my dinner. I find lunch times hard because if I eat veg at lunch time,I really do not want it for dinner.No, I'm not bored. Who could get bored of steak, salmon, strawberries and cream, bacon and eggs. I'm over 3 years down the line now and still enjoying my food. However, I do eat to my meter, and that has told me I can manage 2 small new potatoes with butter on, or 6 to 8 homemade chips. I cannot manage normal or wholemeal bread at all. I am not a rice or pasta lover so they don't bother me, and I don't have a sweet tooth at all..
Have you got a Lidl near you? You may find the high protein rolls satisfy any urge for bread and toast.
I have to stick to same foods and no I dont get bored. Frustrated yes!! However, i know if I eat wrong foods I'll pay for it in pain so guess I put up with it.
Still find interesting ways to have broccoli everyday, and courgette but because I need as much mushy veg as possible I do have parsnip, bnut squash, swede.
Even my sauces if I do them are variations on a theme as I'm not allowed onion or tomato or meat due to stomach/colon probs.
Only meat I can eat is corned beef so Hubby does a great corned beef hash of mushy veg... have a great crustless broccoli quiche, good variation of fish pie (just with veg in a pesto/cheese sauce).
I realised that my thoughts ref food are only about 5 seconds after looking at if I or hubby distract my thoughts away... so its finally getting less frustration with myself although for me it will always play some annoyance at times with myself.. not boredomthough..you,soryobulitsweetpotatand
No Lidl here only Aldi. They have not got the rolls. I eat all of which you mention,but its just sweet potato,and grains I miss. I cook loads of different foods and different variations as I have always loved to cook. I wont eat to much bacon as it is processed,or to muNo, I'm not bored. Who could get bored of steak, salmon, strawberries and cream, bacon and eggs. I'm over 3 years down the line now and still enjoying my food. However, I do eat to my meter, and that has told me I can manage 2 small new potatoes with butter on, or 6 to 8 homemade chips. I cannot manage normal or wholemeal bread at all. I am not a rice or pasta lover so they don't bother me, and I don't have a sweet tooth at all..
Have you got a Lidl near you? You may find the high protein rolls satisfy any urge for bread and toast.
and all these on zero-carb have reversed diabetes or just controlling?
That's not reversing, but just controlling the problem, and even makes it worse as when they start eating carbs again, they find the body can't cope as well as it did before due to increased insulin resistance, so they cut carbs lower and lower, cutting out all fruit and vegetables, and replacing with even more animal fat. How can that be a solution or even heathy?
More importantly the proof is in the results, and if you're still avoiding carbs due to insulin resistance, then I would give it a try. Btw, I now eat 250-300g carbs a day and this morning my fasting was 4.4mmol/l(yesterday was 3.9) and after breakfast 5.0. I've even had a FGT test a week ago( I needed to know if I really reversed it or not), and passed it...so I'm defiantly not controlling, but have fully reversed it.
btw, Vegetarian or Vegan are not diets, and some still eat the wrong food types. Vegetarians for example still eat high amounts of animal fat. It's not about being a vegetarian or vegan, but the type of fat, carbohydrate, and protein we eat, and how and when to exercise.
I must admit I do worry about the restriction on other foods. Am I losing out on certain nutrients? I miss carrots also, healthy grains and certain fruits. I also love swede. I think that if I introduced carrot and swede back into my foods, I would not crave other carbs so much. I have read that Sweet Potato is good for people with diabetes (I am pre diabetic) I have a heart condition so stay away from too much bacon as its processed meat, and I will only eat lean meat. My cholesterol has been good for 12 years and do not want to ruin that. I think that I may introduce 20 grams of grains and see what my meter says.and all these on zero-carb have reversed diabetes or just controlling?
That's not reversing, but just controlling the problem, and even makes it worse as when they start eating carbs again, they find the body can't cope as well as it did before due to increased insulin resistance, so they cut carbs lower and lower, cutting out all fruit and vegetables, and replacing with even more animal fat. How can that be a solution or even heathy?
More importantly the proof is in the results, and if you're still avoiding carbs due to insulin resistance, then I would give it a try. Btw, I now eat 250-300g carbs a day and this morning my fasting was 4.4mmol/l(yesterday was 3.9) and after breakfast 5.0. I've even had a FGT test a week ago( I needed to know if I really reversed it or not), and passed it...so I'm defiantly not controlling, but have fully reversed it.
btw, Vegetarian or Vegan are not diets, and some still eat the wrong food types. Vegetarians for example still eat high amounts of animal fat. It's not about being a vegetarian or vegan, but the type of fat, carbohydrate, and protein we eat, and how and when to exercise.
I think that if I introduced carrot and swede back into my foods, I would not crave other carbs so much.
Yes I will try that and make a smaller portion of other foods on my plate. : )@derry60 Have you tried a small portion of sweet potato? It COULD well be your body can cope with it, but you would have to test it out a few times with the same quantity and same meal, making sure there are very few other carbs in the meal. If you miss it so much, it is surely worth a try. As I said earlier, ordinary new spuds (2 at a time) are fine for me, I am relieved to say. I have also read of others on here that can cope with ordinary or sweet potato in small portions.
Yes but that is the only fruit that we eat (Berries) I have heard Kiwi is ok and some people can eat Papaya fruit. You say that it is not a hardship, for some, it can be. I used to love couscous with peppers, mushrooms, onions, herbs, quinoa the same, and Sweet potato. If I feel peckish, I do not always want nuts or a couple of sticks of celery or a handful of berries lol. I have a heart condition and always ate a healthy balanced diet with my grains, then after being good for 10 years I kind of started to eat the wrong foods and put on weight. 10 years of no high sugar. Could the high sugar be due to my weight gain and not intolerance of grains? or to larger food portions? This is what I will have to find out. I have lost weight since being on this low carb diet though,and my BG levels are bang on,but am concerned that somewhere down the future line am I missing out on certain nutrients. They have said that there has not been a long term study on a very low carb diet,but now seems ok.Controlling diabetes doesn't mean eating no fruit or veg - I can't imagine how you have got that idea nor why you would keep repeating it.
Eating fresh salad, low carb vegetables, low sugar berries and a wide variety of other foods is not a hardship, and I am not just a well controlled diabetic I have normal levels of blood glucose. It is a perfect solution to the problem as far as I am concerned and there are many others who have found the same.
The usual process is exactly the reverse of what you are suggesting - by using a meter and testing out foods it is normal for low carbers to expand the range of foods they find that they can eat, and as they feel better many up the amounts they eat and they also take more exercise as their energy levels rise. That is not a symptom of increasing insulin resistance but the exact opposite.
Yes I can see what you mean. I would have carrot and swede mash with greensI am fine with carrots providing they are the only carbs in the meal. I couldn't have them with peas or beans for example.
Yes I can see what you mean. I would have carrot and swede mash with greens
I can see where you are coming from here and you have worded it perfectly. While we are trying to control either pre diabetes or diabetes with this diet,we could be ignoring other benefits from other foods, for instance, my heart condition.I have been told to limit Sat fat because of my heart. My cholesterol has been good for 12 years since my heart attack,well 10 years because I kind of got a little naughty and ate the wrong foods 2 of those years, although did not raise my cholesterol too much, but did raise it never the less,goes to show wrong foods does have an affect. I have to think of my heart as well as my sugar levels.I have real concern around people concentrating on just one aspect and that is just looking at diabetes.... insulin resistance is now being connected with cancer and as said a lot recently by me, please read and look at details from Prof Robert Thomas regarding the importance of polyphenols from plants in health as a whole. He looks at everything and has done major research regarding foods.
Its ok if you just want to look at diabetes but this is not known to be such a fatal disease as cancer...
Please before looking at just one aspect give a consideration to improving whole health. Ie Prof talks a lot about insulin resistance and no cereals for breakfast, no porridge etc. He is on the side of fewer carbs etc for insulin resistance but when he did research on foods it didnt show meat or dairy etc as the healthiest. It was broccoli and turmeric.. not only good for diabetics, arthritis, but cancer too.
Personally I think an all round insulin resistance approach has to be looked at.
Thank you I will do that. If i find out that I can eat these foods then I will keep my portion to a limited amount,because I love the weight that I have lostThe thing is veg like bnut squash or sweet potatos , carrots, swede etc do have lots of vitamins in that greens dont.
I really think that trying other veg and checking your meter is more imoortant than getting bored.
Like Kristin251 I also have stomach/colon probs and have to limit food as we do not want pain/nausea/hospitals... but we do look at the whole nutrition and not just diabetes.
I would seriously try a little of a thing you miss and see what happens.... mix in with food that you know is ok and try a teaspoon or two.. you dont have to eat a huge sweet potato... try one food at a time...you may be suprised
I used to eat lots of fat as I loved the fat off meat. The best was the boiled bacon fat. I liked my steak and kidney pies also. My cholesterol was through the roof. I stopped the sat fat and went onto eating Healthy grains, couscous,barley etc. My cholesterol went down to 3.4..then last two years,started to eat wrong foods again,and fat and cholesterol went back up..So I have laid off the sat fat again and just eat healthy fats,from fish olive oil ETC,when I ate grains or sweet potato I never felt hungry.Sat fat does not cause heart disease, carbs and seed/vegetable oils do. Your body needs sat fat not least to siate your hunger.
It’s well know comman knowledge these days that high amounts of animal fat increases insulin resistance. I’m surprised you don’t know about it. Google it, lots of research on the subject. I’ve been covering this on the radio with Dr Ing.
I would try going plant based for a while and see what a difference it makes to your health too in helping to reverse diabetes not just control.
I used to eat lots of fat as I loved the fat off meat. The best was the boiled bacon fat. I liked my steak and kidney pies also. My cholesterol was through the roof. I stopped the sat fat and went onto eating Healthy grains, couscous,barley etc. My cholesterol went down to 3.4..then last two years,started to eat wrong foods again,and fat and cholesterol went back up..So I have laid off the sat fat again and just eat healthy fats,from fish olive oil ETC,when I ate grains or sweet potato I never felt hungry.
I'm sorry but saying that something is searchable by Google and 'common knowledge' is no proof of anything.
There are many people who would make the same claims about the earth being flat, that statins grant you longevity, and that humanity was created with the rest of the universe 4,000 years ago.
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