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Help..Getting bored with veg and dairy

No I have only an Aldi, and they don't sell them. I am not really getting bored with salmon, meat,bacon..Although I won't eat too much bacon as that is processed. Its not having some carbs with my dinner. I find lunch times hard because if I eat veg at lunch time,I really do not want it for dinner.
 
There are some of us who do better very low carb for other reasons then blood sugar ( though of course that helps ). I don't digest carbs at all. Especially grains, starches and sugars. If I eat too many veggies I get bloated and tired. If I don't digest them I don't absorb them. Not to mention feeling awful. My sweet tooth is gone so the only fruit I eat is avocado.
I have had stomach issues for a long time. Sadly my daughters is worse than mine. I can't FIX mine but I can control it. I don't eat slabs of protein but I eat some animal/ fish protein everyday. I eat 80% healthy fat diet, 15% protein and 5% carbs. Nor do I eat tons of calories. I listen to my body. It's the boss of me. Not to mention some food intolerances like grains, dairy ( though I sneak a little in) and nightshade veggies ( drooling over the wheelbarrow of tomatoes! I so miss those )

Point is, some of us have other health issues other than diabetes that need to be considered in our diets.
 
No Lidl here only Aldi. They have not got the rolls. I eat all of which you mention,but its just sweet potato,and grains I miss. I cook loads of different foods and different variations as I have always loved to cook. I wont eat to much bacon as it is processed,or to mu
 
@derry60 Have you tried a small portion of sweet potato? It COULD well be your body can cope with it, but you would have to test it out a few times with the same quantity and same meal, making sure there are very few other carbs in the meal. If you miss it so much, it is surely worth a try. As I said earlier, ordinary new spuds (2 at a time) are fine for me, I am relieved to say. I have also read of others on here that can cope with ordinary or sweet potato in small portions.
 
I must admit I do worry about the restriction on other foods. Am I losing out on certain nutrients? I miss carrots also, healthy grains and certain fruits. I also love swede. I think that if I introduced carrot and swede back into my foods, I would not crave other carbs so much. I have read that Sweet Potato is good for people with diabetes (I am pre diabetic) I have a heart condition so stay away from too much bacon as its processed meat, and I will only eat lean meat. My cholesterol has been good for 12 years and do not want to ruin that. I think that I may introduce 20 grams of grains and see what my meter says.
 
I think that if I introduced carrot and swede back into my foods, I would not crave other carbs so much.

I am fine with carrots providing they are the only carbs in the meal. I couldn't have them with peas or beans for example.
 
Yes I will try that and make a smaller portion of other foods on my plate. : )
 
Yes but that is the only fruit that we eat (Berries) I have heard Kiwi is ok and some people can eat Papaya fruit. You say that it is not a hardship, for some, it can be. I used to love couscous with peppers, mushrooms, onions, herbs, quinoa the same, and Sweet potato. If I feel peckish, I do not always want nuts or a couple of sticks of celery or a handful of berries lol. I have a heart condition and always ate a healthy balanced diet with my grains, then after being good for 10 years I kind of started to eat the wrong foods and put on weight. 10 years of no high sugar. Could the high sugar be due to my weight gain and not intolerance of grains? or to larger food portions? This is what I will have to find out. I have lost weight since being on this low carb diet though,and my BG levels are bang on,but am concerned that somewhere down the future line am I missing out on certain nutrients. They have said that there has not been a long term study on a very low carb diet,but now seems ok.
 
I am fine with carrots providing they are the only carbs in the meal. I couldn't have them with peas or beans for example.
Yes I can see what you mean. I would have carrot and swede mash with greens
 
@derry60

I'm not sure which nutrients you feel you may be missing out on. Are you talking vitamins and minerals? If so, there is no need to be short of any of these on a low carb diet.
 
Hi @derry60 If you fancy bread, there are several lower carb varieties available in the major supermarkets now. If you only have an Aldi and nothing else, you could try making some. I like this recipe Or go without bread and just eat the stuff you would put in/on it.

Have you tried cauliflower rice? I have used it for rice, couscous, risotto, jambalaya etc. If you are missing breakfast cereals, you can toast chopped nuts and seeds in a dry frying pan with a little ground ginger and sweetener if you like to make muesli. Better than shop bought in my opinion.

Carrots might be better raw than cooked. I find it easier to eat more when they are cooked. Testing will help you find out. It is good that you like cooking. Try not to feel like you are missing out on anything. There are lot of other things to try. Good luck.
 
Yes I can see what you mean. I would have carrot and swede mash with greens

We all have different tolerance levels. My personal one is - zero carbs before lunch, and under 20g per meal for lunch and evening meal. If I overdo the 20g I spike. It is down to regular testing and experimenting with what your tolerance is.
 
The thing is veg like bnut squash or sweet potatos , carrots, swede etc do have lots of vitamins in that greens dont.
I really think that trying other veg and checking your meter is more imoortant than getting bored.
Like Kristin251 I also have stomach/colon probs and have to limit food as we do not want pain/nausea/hospitals... but we do look at the whole nutrition and not just diabetes.
I would seriously try a little of a thing you miss and see what happens.... mix in with food that you know is ok and try a teaspoon or two.. you dont have to eat a huge sweet potato... try one food at a time...you may be suprised
 
Sat fat does not cause heart disease, carbs and seed/vegetable oils do. Your body needs sat fat not least to siate your hunger.
 
I can see where you are coming from here and you have worded it perfectly. While we are trying to control either pre diabetes or diabetes with this diet,we could be ignoring other benefits from other foods, for instance, my heart condition.I have been told to limit Sat fat because of my heart. My cholesterol has been good for 12 years since my heart attack,well 10 years because I kind of got a little naughty and ate the wrong foods 2 of those years, although did not raise my cholesterol too much, but did raise it never the less,goes to show wrong foods does have an affect. I have to think of my heart as well as my sugar levels.
 
Thank you I will do that. If i find out that I can eat these foods then I will keep my portion to a limited amount,because I love the weight that I have lost
 
Sat fat does not cause heart disease, carbs and seed/vegetable oils do. Your body needs sat fat not least to siate your hunger.
I used to eat lots of fat as I loved the fat off meat. The best was the boiled bacon fat. I liked my steak and kidney pies also. My cholesterol was through the roof. I stopped the sat fat and went onto eating Healthy grains, couscous,barley etc. My cholesterol went down to 3.4..then last two years,started to eat wrong foods again,and fat and cholesterol went back up..So I have laid off the sat fat again and just eat healthy fats,from fish olive oil ETC,when I ate grains or sweet potato I never felt hungry.
 

I'm sorry but saying that something is searchable by Google and 'common knowledge' is no proof of anything.
There are many people who would make the same claims about the earth being flat, that statins grant you longevity, and that humanity was created with the rest of the universe 4,000 years ago.

I would be very interested in seeing creditable, verifiable, peer reviewed research to back your claim that saturated fat will prevent T2s from 'reversing'. Could you also please clarify what you mean by 'reversing'?

When you do, I will be pleased to move your posts,and the relevant replies to another thread, so that they can be discussed properly, rather than derail this thread further.

The reason I ask is because if there is a creditable body of work supporting your claim then I am sure many people will be interested in having a proper discussion on the subject, rather than derailing this thread with random posts making unsubstantiated claims.
 

There are lots of reasons that cholesterol rises and falls. Switching to a diet lower in carbs, especially simple carbs, will lower cholesterol, as will going on lower calorie diets and reducing alcohol intake.

I am not saying you are wrong, just that there are many factors at work, and in the situation you describe there may well have been several of those factors in play.

For instance, a diet rich in pies, is a diet with red meat, processed low quality fats, highly processed carbs, and little fibre. All those things could be contrubutors, not just the saturated fat. Also, if a person is filling up on pies, they won't be eating other things which may have a beneficial impact. Especially when a lot of mass produced pastry is made with unhealthy fats.

Here is the ingredients list of a Fray Bentos Steak and Kidney Pie.
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=277597842
Ingredients:
Water, Puff Pastry (27%) (Wheatflour (with Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Margarine (Palm Oil, Rapeseed Oil, Water, Salt, Emulsifier (Mono-and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids)), Water, Salt), Beef (12%), Pork Kidney (9%), Stabiliser (Xanthan Gum), Modified Maize Starch , Wheatflour (with Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Salt, Spices, Yeast Extract, Flavouring, Tomato Paste, Barley Malt Extract, Beef Extract, Chicory Extract, Sugar, Colour (Plain Caramel), Tomato Powder, Garlic Powder

In the above, there is twice as much puff pastry as beef (kidney is low in fat), and all the added fat is margarine and veg oil.
I just think that blaming saturated fat for raised cholesterol in those circumstances is a bit too simplistic.
 
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I hope I am misunderstanding this ridicule. Is this how the moderators here treat people who manage their condition without saturated fats? Disappointed doesn't come close.
 
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