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orchidlady

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Was diagnosed in Aug ( kind of) have bought have been self monitoring since beginning of Oct. Just can't seem to get me levels down despite low carbing, getting fasting readings of 13.9 and 18.2. Just tested 2 hours after breakfast ( porridge half water/milk, fake sugar) and now bloody 21.4. I have reading the thread about what your fasting levels and mine seem to be of the scale. On no medication (yet). Any suggestions on how I can bring down, am getting very worried
 
Hi orchidlady

A breakfast of porridge would not be something I could eat at all - I am super sensitive to any carbs

If your readings are so high the you might consider cutting out all carbs for a day or two, testing at least after each meal then add back in your porridge and test. That way at least you will be able to positively identify whether the carb amount of porridge is working against you or not.

This was the route I took after finding the smallest amount of pasta gave me a 13.1 - I ate nothing carb-y then reintroduced different carbs - depending on the reading ( all were high ) I haven't eaten them again. Sometimes it meant eating the same thing for every meal (minus one element) until I could find the culprit :crazy:

You'll get there - for many of us the trial and error process can be very frustrating

Good luck

Gilly x
 
some people can handle it but mostly not

it gave me my highest read too

Your readings are pretty high tho anyway. You mention you are low carbing, if you are really going for low carb the numbers should be coming down. If they are not, it may be that your body needs more help to process them. Or you need to re-evaluate what low carb means for you - everyone's different and only by testing will you find out

Mary x
 
Hi. What does your GP think of these readings? What was your last Hba1C. It sounds like you should be on some medication. Are you normal weight and quite young?
 
I can't manage porridge either, and when I did eat it felt ravenously hungry just a couple of hours later. Try having bacon and eggs fried in olive oil instead for tomorrow's breakfast and see what your +2 reading is like. If its still high then I think you need to see the Doc as others have said.
 
OK I am really going low low card and see what happens over the next couple of day, Hba1c was 9.2. I am not over weight and 47. Not seen a GP only nurse. OK so how is this for a lunch Advocado, with Tuna Mayo, pea shoots and tomatoes, and some furious activity on the stepper :o)
 
Someone has just said this to me "Diabetes2 is not the end of the world and you aren't going to die from it"

So am I being paranoid?
 
orchidlady said:
Someone has just said this to me "Diabetes2 is not the end of the world and you aren't going to die from it"

So am I being paranoid?
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Tell them in a study of 55 year old Type 2 diabetics who did not control their sugars made over 13 years half were dead before the study ended and of the survivors many were blind and had lost limbs.

Is that "end of the world enough?"

Type 2 Diabetes is not the end of the world IF you learn to control it by what ever means you choose. Control means getting your blood levels low enough and making lifestyle changes to lose weight etc if you need to.

If they want to see the evidence tell them to read these.

After 8 years ..
http://www.steno.dk/documents/forskning/afd521/Steno-2.pdf

A follow up study was then done at 13 years. The slides for that can be found here http://www.stenodiabetescenter.com/documents/forskning/Oluf/Steno-2follow-upstudy.pdf



The above shows the two groups they used. In the standard group of 80 people who were badly controlled 40 died before 13 years was up. Even the intensive therapy group wasn't particularly well controlled hence a load of them snuffed it as well.


Oh and the source of that study? My GP

Whoever told you that is speaking out of their ar*e :shock:
 

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orchidlady said:
Someone has just said this to me "Diabetes2 is not the end of the world and you aren't going to die from it"

So am I being paranoid?
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Tell them in a study of 55 year old Type 2 diabetics who did not control their sugars made over 13 years half were dead before the study ended and of the survivors many were blind and had lost limbs.

Is that "end of the world enough?"[...]
Oh and the source of that study? My GP

Whoever told you that is speaking out of their ar*e :shock:
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I want to be able to see my great-grandchildren and dance with my grand-daughter at her wedding... Both possible future events lie in the 13 year time frame... both reasons to want to get a hold of my blood sugar levels NOW... (I'm 55 now as well)
 
Hi. An HBa1C of 9.2 is far too high and your GP should have started some medication. Normally it would be Metformin for starters. I think you need to insist to your GP or nurse that 9.2 needs treatment; a low carb diet is part of that but almost certainly not enough especially as you are not overweight. There is an outside possibility that you are a late onset T1. If with low-carbing and some medication your sugars don't come down over the next month or so you may want to discuss with your GP the possibility of an alternative diabetes diagnosis; there are two tests that can help with this. You may want to download the NHS/NICE Diabetes Guidelines from their websites. It shows the treatment regime that your GP should be following for various levels of HBa1C measurement.
 
I was under no illusion that diabetes was not a serious condition just a bit amazing of peoples attitudes. Thanks for the advise so far. Just done another test now 13.5, which I know is not brilliant but flippin better than 21.4 earlier, was starting to panic a little.

Daibell, do you not think it possible to bring levels back to a normal level with diet alone?
 
Fraddycat said:
xyzzy, that study is quite terrifying. If ever there was motivation to keep my numbers down its there in Blue and White. :shock:
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Yes it is shocking. I was pleased my GP had the balls to tell me about it though as we do tend to live in an age where telling people hard truths is shied away from in case they are offended.

Do remember Fraddycat that the study was begun in 1995 and what they call the intensive therapy group i.e. the ones they applied help to were badly controlled to begin with. At the time when I first posted I mentioned my GP had said and Phoenix then expanded on several points that should be taken into consideration.

phoenix said:
One thing to remember is that at the start of this study all the subjects were poorly controlled. They had had diabetes for an average of 6 years already they had an average HbA1c of around 8.6%, high BP, average BMI of over 30, relatively high cholesterol and trigs and all had some degree of albuminuria. So they were all already at huge risk of an early death or if not serious complications.

Relatively few actually achieved the 6.5% HbA1c, their average HbA1c was 7.9% at the end compared with 9% in the conventional group.
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Really to me the study shows the absolute danger of not be told the truth i.e idiotic and dangerous statements like "Diabetes2 is not the end of the world and you aren't going to die from it" If you believe that and ignore the condition you will get the consequences the study suggests so it's best to act as soon as you are diagnosed and get control. Better reverse the condition while you are pre diabetic!
 
Hi, was told i was type 2 2 years ago and did all the thing the nurse asked, cut out sugars and fizzy drinks, had more pasta and brown bread, eat more fish and lost 2 stone, have now settled down, put on about a stone but am watching the intake.
Making changes is a slow thing and takes time but will come in the end. My doctor advised me not to test to much a it was making me worry to much. Have the odd bad day but getting there.
Hope this helps, Derek.
 
Hi. I'm not an expert but I think that many of us would agree that if you are overweight and hence an insulin resistant T2 then the right diet can work wonders and some on the forum have got back to normal without medication. If you are not overweight, then it is more likely that you have an under-producing pancreas rathher than having insulin resistance. Although the right low-carb diet will help, you almost certainly need medication to optimise the insulin your pancreas produces including Metformin to help reduce glucose released into the body. I'm in that position hence the meds I'm on and I still struggle; may be you will be luckier.
 
Morning all, so today I am really really low carbing to see if I can bring these levels down. Have had Scrambled eggs and Mushrooms this morning (yuk)and will test in a couple of hours to see the difference versus porridge. Probably a stupid question but if I eat anything for a snack should I then wait another 2 hours. I prefer to graze rather than eat big meals. Was thinking sugar free yoghurt or handful of nuts maybe a pear. Rubbish fasting reading of 16.1 this morning, had roast chicken, loads of green beans and brocolli, NO potatoes, not 1
 
I have a small portion of porridge, 25g, sometimes but use oatbran which is less carbs and if you can find the sort with 28% beta glucans it seems to have a marginal effect of my BG. Maybe work for you.
 
Thanks Whelk, the trouble has been my levels have been so high so am vastly reducing carbs to see is it makes a difference, I love porridge. Hate protein for breakfast, my idea of hell is bacon and eggs, it seems such bad food in my mind but need to try and do something. I am so newly diagnosed so bit ignorant at the moment ma learning though
 
Hi Orchidlady,

I look forwards to your results, I was diagnosed on Monday and one of the only things my doc said was to have porridge. from what Im reading, thats not such a good thing. I also asked about self testing, and she said i dont need to do that at the moment.

My wife and I agree that I probably do, just so i can see how different foods are affecting me.

fingers crossed your levels are lower now after...mmmnnn... scambled eggs and mushrooms (heaven) :thumbup:
 
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