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Hi.

I wonder if anyone can answer a question for me, which has been answered in another thread, but I am still confused.

I have planned out my days eating, and the carbs amount to 21. There is also 14 grams of fibre. Do I deduct the fibre from the carbs or just leave it alone?

Thanks!
 
It does, but I am using all fresh food, and calculating it on a mainly American site. Thanks for the reply :x
 
It can be very confusing. I remember the confusion of some low carbers from the US thinking that the crackers they were eating had -3g carbs.

(the crackers were from Sweden and labelled in the EU (same as UK) they had 2g carb + 5g fibre, the US low carbers subtracted the fibre as they would in the US and yippee -3g, a miracle food :lol: )

edit : if you google you'll find a lot of posts on various forums from a lot of people who are confused as to whether fitday includes fibre or not in their carb count.
 
I STILL get confused. A few answers needed please! The basic difference I believe is that we show carbs with fibre already subtracted, whereas in USA they show total carbs INCLUDING the carb content of the fibre and then subtract the fibre to show net. Am I right? But doesn't that mean their net carbs equal our total carbs? So, example. Atkins daybreak bars are USA marked. They show carbs of 8.1 of which polyols are 6.4. They say polyols are zero (not so I think but never mind) and thus give net carbs of 2.1 HOWEVER, they also show dietary fibre of 5.6 Are they thus saying the total carbs WERE 13.7, but they've already deducted the fibre as per the UK system? Incidentally, they also show Glycerine of 2.8 as part of the polyols - I think I read that is genuine zero carbs?
 
Grazer said:
I STILL get confused. A few answers needed please! The basic difference I believe is that we show carbs with fibre already subtracted, whereas in USA they show total carbs INCLUDING the carb content of the fibre and then subtract the fibre to show net
On a US label they say Total Carbs . This includes sugar, fibre etc so they say carbs of which fiber . Just as we say Carbs of which sugar. We list fibre separately, it is not included with carbs.

. Am I right? But doesn't that mean their net carbs equal our total carbs?
Net carbs aren't from any official source, possibly they derive from companies like Atkins as a marketing tool.
So, example. Atkins daybreak bars are USA marked. They show carbs of 8.1 of which polyols are 6.4. They say polyols are zero (not so I think but never mind) and thus give net carbs of 2.1 HOWEVER, they also show dietary fibre of 5.6 Are they thus saying the total carbs WERE 13.7, but they've already deducted the fibre as per the UK system? Incidentally, they also show Glycerine of 2.8 as part of the polyols - I think I read that is genuine zero carbs?

I think you'll have to email the company about that one. It's in their interests to suggest something has a very low percentage of carbs . What is on the official label?
It would be exactly the same if people who sold cold potato salad labelled it as having fewer effective carbs because of the resistant starch? ie open to debate ]
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This is what I am going to do after doing loads of comparisons on carbs. If it is a ready packed product, I am taking that as the total carbs, but looking at veg and salad, the site I am using is showing the american system (according to my Little Gem Carb Counter) So today I have had 16 grams of carbs.

Go me :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Thanks Phoenix. The Atkins figures I gave were the ones on the official label. Just to make sure I've got it 100% - the USA figures for carbs, for the same product, would be higher than the UK figures by the number of grams of fibre? Yes?
 
Grazer said:
Thanks Phoenix. The Atkins figures I gave were the ones on the official label. Just to make sure I've got it 100% - the USA figures for carbs, for the same product, would be higher than the UK figures by the number of grams of fibre? Yes?
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I can confirm your suspicions after spending ages trying to work it out :wink:
 
Jeannemum said:
This is what I am going to do after doing loads of comparisons on carbs. If it is a ready packed product, I am taking that as the total carbs, but looking at veg and salad, the site I am using is showing the american system (according to my Little Gem Carb Counter) So today I have had 16 grams of carbs.

Go me :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Well done you!!

Working on what you have said, I have deducted the fibre on just the fresh foods, I think (I was never any good at maths) my carbs for today are 14g. If that is right, then today is my second lowest carb day.
 
Defren said:
Jeannemum said:
This is what I am going to do after doing loads of comparisons on carbs. If it is a ready packed product, I am taking that as the total carbs, but looking at veg and salad, the site I am using is showing the american system (according to my Little Gem Carb Counter) So today I have had 16 grams of carbs.

Go me :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Well done you!!

Working on what you have said, I have deducted the fibre on just the fresh foods, I think (I was never any good at maths) my carbs for today are 14g. If that is right, then today is my second lowest carb day.
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I get yours to 14 as well. We are super low carbers :thumbup:
 
Is there any books which wil help me with carb counting and how many i can have a day, i dont know even how many carbs are in a slice of bread, so i need help, as ive just blundered my way through, hoping my foods are ok, sometimes with 9.3 readings first thing in a morning, ty
 
judeuk2011 said:
Is there any books which wil help me with carb counting and how many i can have a day, i dont know even how many carbs are in a slice of bread, so i need help, as ive just blundered my way through, hoping my foods are ok, sometimes with 9.3 readings first thing in a morning, ty
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The Collins little Gem series have a carb counting book, it's not perfect, but it will do the job just fine. Amazon sell it for around £3. There is no set amount of carbs anyone should have. Eat to your meter is the only way. Start of at say 100-150g test, test and test more. If the amount you start with keeps your BG high, lower the carbs by either smaller portions or working out what is causing the spike and eliminating that food stuff from your diet. People here eat between around 20g-150g of carbs a day, so it's impossible to give a ball park figure to anyone.
 
It's at times like this that I wish I'd been better at Maths than I was at English :crazy:
 
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