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MissBabs

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13
Location
Cheshire
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 and saw my GP today.

My reading was 63 and anything over 45 means diabetes. Can anyone explain what this means please?

Diabetes was the last thing I was expecting today so didn't ask many questions, think I was struck dumb with shock.

The GP said that I will be given an appointment with the Practice Nurse but I know from others that this can take several weeks.

In the meanwhile the GP wants to start me on Metformin, I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first. I did ask if I could come off Metformin if diabetes was controlled by diet & exercise but GP said that once I start I will be on it for life. Therefore am I better waiting until I try to get it under control by diet & exercise.

I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight, do not carry excess weight around my waist, no family history, life time non smoker, I exercise.

Any help / advice / guidance much appreciated.
 
I will tag @daisy1 who will give you some very useful and standard advice.

As for metformin for life that just isnt true. I started on it and now I am not on anything and my diagnostic levels were much worse than yours. In my signature there is a link to my first 3 month journey where I got my levels back to normal and have been since.
 
There are many stereotypical opinions about type 2 diabetes and some of them start in the doctor's surgery.

"I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first."

This wasn't my experience and not that of many people who post on this site. From day one I was given three different kinds of pills to take and advice from a dietitian to eat carbs with every meal. Nothing on exercise

"I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight,"

This isn't a requirement for diabetes. It is true that the things that give you diabetes also try to make you fat but 20% of people manage to get it and stay slim.

Do the diet and exercise without waiting for the doctor. Read around this site for tips.
 
@MissBabs

Hello and welcome to the forum :) To help get you started, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi, I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 and saw my GP today.

My reading was 63 and anything over 45 means diabetes. Can anyone explain what this means please?

Diabetes was the last thing I was expecting today so didn't ask many questions, think I was struck dumb with shock.

The GP said that I will be given an appointment with the Practice Nurse but I know from others that this can take several weeks.

In the meanwhile the GP wants to start me on Metformin, I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first. I did ask if I could come off Metformin if diabetes was controlled by diet & exercise but GP said that once I start I will be on it for life. Therefore am I better waiting until I try to get it under control by diet & exercise.

I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight, do not carry excess weight around my waist, no family history, life time non smoker, I exercise.

Any help / advice / guidance much appreciated.
Out of interest do you eat a lot of fruit? From my research fructose seems to be the a big culprit (possibly coupled with low vit D) as it "fatifies" the liver and pancreas and also raises your triglyceride levels.
 
I was diagnosed last week at a level of 46 and no not everyone waits weeks for a nurse appointment I had my first appointment with the diabetes nurse on Monday this week. I will be taking Metformin as both my doctor and nurse said it is a good drug as it does have protective properties for the heart and other things so I am happy to take it They say it can help with weight loss but hopefully not to much for me as I have never been overweight
 
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thanks everyone for your comments really helpful. Andrew, yes I do eat a lot of fruit and I've been on Meds in the past for low Vitamin D!! Will read your journal with interest.
 
Hi and welcome. Diet and exercise are always the highest priority for us so you are right that that should always be tried first if your blood sugar reading isn't too high. Your blood sugar reading will be your HBa1C which reflects an average blood sugar level over the past 3 months. 63 mmol isn't that bad but having the Metformin may well be sensible as it does help reduce blood sugar a bit and does remove insulin resistance due to stored fat. You may not need to stay on it for life if the right diet brings your HBa1C down nearer to around 45 mmol. I note that you say you aren't excessively overweight. If you are in fact slim, and your blood sugar doesn't come under control then there is a background possibility of being Late onset T1, but I would assume the GP's T2 diagnosis.
 
Thanks Daibell, learnt a lot already, just from the replies on here. Appreciate the support.
 
I would try the Metformin in your shoes, and continue with it for a while as long as you don't get any bad side effects.

It will help you, and the only goal you should have is getting this disease under control, and anything that can help achieve that would be silly to rule out.
 
Hello and Welcome...I too was flabagasted when i found out I had diabetes.... it is hard to take in and yes was over weight and lost 6 stone and eat properly now ...... not lost the diabetes but at least am still alive...try the metformin they do not suit everyone but if they help then so be it....
 
Hi, I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 and saw my GP today.

My reading was 63 and anything over 45 means diabetes. Can anyone explain what this means please?

Diabetes was the last thing I was expecting today so didn't ask many questions, think I was struck dumb with shock.

The GP said that I will be given an appointment with the Practice Nurse but I know from others that this can take several weeks.

In the meanwhile the GP wants to start me on Metformin, I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first. I did ask if I could come off Metformin if diabetes was controlled by diet & exercise but GP said that once I start I will be on it for life. Therefore am I better waiting until I try to get it under control by diet & exercise.

I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight, do not carry excess weight around my waist, no family history, life time non smoker, I exercise.

Any help / advice / guidance much appreciated.

The blood test result you were given is your HbA1C level. This is a protein in your blood which indicates what your long term good glucose levels have been like over the past 12 to 24 weeks. 63 isn't too bad, considering you're newly diagnosed. However, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "MILD" DIABETES, whether it be Type 1 or Type 2. Both are serious and incurable.
The great news is though, that you can manage this disease and keep your risks of diabetic complications low by following the advice of your GP and Diabetes Nurse.

Personally, I would give the Metformin a go without delay. You don't know how long your blood sugars have already been high, and the longer they are high, the more chance that damage is being done to your body.

Your GP has probably prescribed for you the standard tablets. Metformin can sometimes cause quite unpleasant side effects with your tummy and bowels. Starting on a low dose of say 500mg once a day with your main meal can greatly reduce the risk of these unpleasant side effects. If you do suffer with the side effects, persevere for a week or so, as they often settle down given a little time. However, if they do not settle, ask for MODIFIED RELEASE (MR or SR) tablets. These take a little longer to dissolve releasing the drug slowly, and greatly reduce the risk of side effects in the tummy and bowel.
Most importantly, always take your Metformin with a meal, preferably the largest meal of your day.
As for being on Metformin for the rest of your life... this isn't necessarily true. However, if you are already a healthy weight and active, it's unlikely that diet alone will ever completely control your diabetes, so if Metformin helps control your diabetes and you are able to tolerate it, you will likely stay on it for life now.

Obviously, diet and exercise play an important role in keeping fit and healthy for all of us, whether diabetic or not. I would continue with your normal exercise regime if you have one, if not, take advice from your GP and Diabetes Nurse.

I wish you all the very best of luck and health.
 
Like Diabet, I am wondering if you might be type 1.
Not all type twos are overweight and there are many causes of type two diabetes.
When I was diagnosed I went to my doctor and he told me that I was type 2. I was not overweight, never smoked etc. .
He prescribed metformin and off I went.
The next day the diabetes nurse called me, she had looked at my test results and said that I was type 1.
She sent me to hospital where I was put on a sliding scale of insulin.
Take care x
 
Hi, I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 and saw my GP today.

My reading was 63 and anything over 45 means diabetes. Can anyone explain what this means please?

Diabetes was the last thing I was expecting today so didn't ask many questions, think I was struck dumb with shock.

The GP said that I will be given an appointment with the Practice Nurse but I know from others that this can take several weeks.

In the meanwhile the GP wants to start me on Metformin, I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first. I did ask if I could come off Metformin if diabetes was controlled by diet & exercise but GP said that once I start I will be on it for life. Therefore am I better waiting until I try to get it under control by diet & exercise.

I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight, do not carry excess weight around my waist, no family history, life time non smoker, I exercise.

Any help / advice / guidance much appreciated.

Hi Miss Babs. When I was first diagnosed (May 2014) my hba1c was exactly the same as yours. I wasn't overweight either. I was told over the phone by the diabetic nurse I was "an established diabetic" and must've had it a while. She told me I would be going on Metformin but couldn't fit me in for an appointment for 4 weeks. I was in total shock and frightened to eat anything in case I was doing the wrong thing. Luckily I found this forum, and reading various threads and asking questions helped a lot. When I eventually got to see the Diabetic Nurse I asked if she could give me 3 months to see what I could do on my own, she reluctantly agreed, but said there's no point and as long as I realised I'd end up on tablets in 3 months she agreed. After 3 months my hba1c was 46 (I had started cutting the carbs). She was very surprised and agreed to give it another 3 months to see if I could improve on my own, the next result was 37. I am now diet controlled (my last result -October this year was 32). The last time I saw the diabetic nurse she said that she had been very impressed at my results. She said that virtually every newly diagnosed diabetic she saw was overweight, watched TV all day and lead an unhealthy lifestyle & that when they had the diagnosis they didn't change anything or take it seriously which is why she automatically put patients on medication to try and control the diabetes. She said that when she met me and realised I wasn't like that and I was taking it seriously that's when she let me try controlling it by diet. When you see the diabetic nurse, maybe ask her if you can try by diet, if that's what you want. I had an app on my phone (still do) which I showed the diabetic nurse, recording what I was eating. I think the app really helped me, so I could see exactly what I was eating. It's surprising how much sugar some so called healthy foods have in.
 
I was told metformin was for life. I think the reason was that my diabetic nurse wasn't expecting me to cut the carbs and get my blood glucose down to "normal" levels within three months. Most of the people she sees don't have the huge advantage of knowing about this website, and the brilliant advice available. If her patients take metformin, and carry on eating the way they have then yes, they'll be on it for life.
It also works as an appetite suppressant so I'm actually quite keen to stay on it for a bit. :)
 
"the experts" say that diabetes is a progressive condition and that as time goes on medication will have to be given & then increased. I have read quite a few cases on this forum where people have come off the tablets. If you're in the UK watch the first and 3rd shows of Doctor in the House, (the first one especially) and you'll see it actually happening. It was on BBC1.
 
Good advice already given.This is an excellent forum, stick around with us,have a good read around.Although one size does not fit all, many including myself ,recently diagnosed type 2 ,have had success with a low carb high fat diet LCHF.
Practically all my cholesterol figures and especially my BG are back within normal range within 3 months LCHF (quite strict). My trigs from 6.0 to 1.0 GP receptionist thought it was some sort of recording error.
I have stuck with the Metformin as I seem to tolerate it with no problems.It is apparently a very safe drug and slightly lowers glucose production by your liver as well as it's main function as an appetite suppressant to assist weight loss.
You will find better advice here from those of us that have been on your journey already than from anywhere else.
Don't worry we are here to help.Just ask away, no question is stupid.

Cheers
 
Hi, I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 and saw my GP today.

My reading was 63 and anything over 45 means diabetes. Can anyone explain what this means please?

Diabetes was the last thing I was expecting today so didn't ask many questions, think I was struck dumb with shock.

The GP said that I will be given an appointment with the Practice Nurse but I know from others that this can take several weeks.

In the meanwhile the GP wants to start me on Metformin, I always thought that you tried diet & exercise first. I did ask if I could come off Metformin if diabetes was controlled by diet & exercise but GP said that once I start I will be on it for life. Therefore am I better waiting until I try to get it under control by diet & exercise.

I think I was so surprised because I am not excessively overweight, do not carry excess weight around my waist, no family history, life time non smoker, I exercise.

Any help / advice / guidance much appreciated.
 
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