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JMHAY

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Recent blood tests show the result of HbA1c as 52mmol. The specialist nurse at my GP surgery informed me of a prediabetes diagnosis and has said that there is no need for me to do my own blood testing at home. Having looked at a table of mmol readings, my result suggests that I am type 2 diabetic which is why I'm asking for other members of the Forum, with much more experience, to help with which type I am - pre or full-blown type 2. My dad has been type 2 for over 20 years and was shown on the day of his diagnosis how to test his blood sugars so I'm a tad on the confused side.
 
Recent blood tests show the result of HbA1c as 52mmol. The specialist nurse at my GP surgery informed me of a prediabetes diagnosis and has said that there is no need for me to do my own blood testing at home. Having looked at a table of mmol readings, my result suggests that I am type 2 diabetic which is why I'm asking for other members of the Forum, with much more experience, to help with which type I am - pre or full-blown type 2. My dad has been type 2 for over 20 years and was shown on the day of his diagnosis how to test his blood sugars so I'm a tad on the confused side.

Hi and welcome,

The nurse is cuckoo and needs to look the ranges up to refresh her knowledge. What a strange thing for her to say..
Under 42 is non diabetic
42 to 48 is pre-diabetic
48 and over is diabetic

If your HbA1c is 52mmol/mol you are diabetic. No question. I hope you have been put on the diabetic register so you can have access to the care plan, involving annual retina eye screening, annual foot checks, another HbA1c in 3 months and then regularly after that, face to face reviews, an invitation to attend a course, other regular checks for blood pressure, cholesterol, and liver & kidney functions..

Most of us are told we don't need to test. I believe testing is essential otherwise you cannot discover which foods you personally react to and are therefore working blind. I suggest you ignore that snippet from your nurse and buy your own meter. Type 2s were given meters 20 years ago, and those on insulin or some strong drugs are still given meters. The majority of us are not.

Please have a good read round the forums and see how others are managing to control this condition. Meanwhile, I'll tag @daisy1 who has valuable information for newcomers.
 
As @Bluetit1802 said, there no way to know which foods are spiking you and which aren't. Sounds like you need a good look around the forum as to how diet ( lowering your carbs and any junk food if you eat it) and exercise can possibly bring you down to adequate or normal ranges. Most likely a low carb diet will nip this in the bud.

Quick list of appropriate foods would be all kinds of fresh chicken turkey, lamb, beef, all kinds of fish, cheese and cram if you tolerate dairy, nuts in moderation

Above ground low carb beggies.

Healthy fats. Avocado olive oil, olives, cheese, nuts

Grains, starchy veggies, pasta, rice, potato, chips and such, oats, breads etc are off many of our food lists.
 
Recent blood tests show the result of HbA1c as 52mmol. The specialist nurse at my GP surgery informed me of a prediabetes diagnosis and has said that there is no need for me to do my own blood testing at home. Having looked at a table of mmol readings, my result suggests that I am type 2 diabetic which is why I'm asking for other members of the Forum, with much more experience, to help with which type I am - pre or full-blown type 2. My dad has been type 2 for over 20 years and was shown on the day of his diagnosis how to test his blood sugars so I'm a tad on the confused side.
Your DN is talking complete rubbish. You need to test to see what effect your food is having on your BG levels.
@Bluetit1802 and @Kristin251 both have excellent replies.
 
I was diagnosed myself with the same number a few months back

Clear as day it is in diabetic range and I self test to see what works and does not for me.
 
Hi. You are diabetic and probably T2 unless stick thin. Do get hold of a meter as we all need to test; 2 hours after some typical meals to start with. Yes, do check you have been registered. Have look at the NICE Diabetes Guidelines on the web if you want to see the route GPs should follow.
 
I thought you needed a second test to confirm diagnosis?

@Alison Campbell I have read that in a few places but I was diagnosed on one test in the diabetic zone . I think based on the fact I had progressively higher "pre diabetic" readings in previous years

Initially 6 , then 6.4 ( fairy sure I was not notified of this one) then 6.9 which puts me firmly in the zone. So I guess not always 2 tests .
 
Recent blood tests show the result of HbA1c as 52mmol. The specialist nurse at my GP surgery informed me of a prediabetes diagnosis and has said that there is no need for me to do my own blood testing at home. Having looked at a table of mmol readings, my result suggests that I am type 2 diabetic which is why I'm asking for other members of the Forum, with much more experience, to help with which type I am - pre or full-blown type 2. My dad has been type 2 for over 20 years and was shown on the day of his diagnosis how to test his blood sugars so I'm a tad on the confused side.


have a look at this link ...:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
 
@JMHAY

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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