Hi, doctor is not sure ???

[NoCrbs4Me]

Yes i know it but with all the respect this is very severe especially for 1 hour. Below 140, i don t think so. I have red various reports where many people are observed real data which readings are bigger and they were normal by the doctors.
Also my carb intake was 130g. I know that this is not pure glucose GI100 but 130g is a lot. And saying that 160 - 170 is not a normal spike after 130g... sorry but you understand my point.

The point is as stated: I don't think that your results from the chocolate cake experiment show that you don't have any insulin resistance (i.e. diabetes/prediabetes).

I recently did some experiments of my own and ate even more carbs than you did and my blood glucose did not go as high as yours.

Again, if you really want to investigate the state of your level of insulin resistance, you need to see the results of more than just a single high carb meal.

 

[Al1000]

Again. I like science. Yes spike 160 170 is normal. What woukd be abnormal is not to drop after. We know that. Especially for someone low carbing for 1 week (below 100g carbs a day) before such experiment and no preparation at all.

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Again. I like science. Yes spike 160 170 is normal. What woukd be abnormal is not to drop after. We know that. Especially for someone low carbing for 1 week (below 100g carbs a day) before such experiment and no preparation at all.

Then I guess you can tell your doctor to get stuffed, since you believe you are not prediabetic and, therefore, he is wrong.

 

[Rustytypin]

Hi Al, I like science too, and to be valid,an experiment needs to be repeatable. From what I can gather you have only tried the test once. You need to test a number of times and then evaluate the results, taking into account all factors, including exercise, sleep patterns. Unfortunately the body is not a machine, and therefore different circumstances will give you different results. For me a Hba 1c of 6 would make me sit up and think! Regardless of one off experiments.

 

[Al1000]

Hi Al, I like science too, and to be valid,an experiment needs to be repeatable. From what I can gather you have only tried the test once. You need to test a number of times and then evaluate the results, taking into account all factors, including exercise, sleep patterns. Unfortunately the body is not a machine, and therefore different circumstances will give you different results. For me a Hba 1c of 6 would make me sit up and think! Regardless of one off experiments.

Thank you! 6 % is simething to be done of course. What is interesting to me is if that spike of 160 170 after 1 week of low carb <100 and 130 g of bigger chocolate cake and small coke is normal. Noone knows...

 

[leslie10152]

One test is not one result. Conclusion is not singular. Variables have haunted science throughout its history. Don't simply base your observation on a single event, be ready to test over time.

 

[Al1000]

I just found out this great study where we see non diabetics with A1C below 5 % and perfect health markers feeded with 50g carb meal per portion hit 150 mark so whatever the other site state below 140 for 1 hour IS NOT backed up with real study.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769652/

 

[CherryAA]

This is a great study to look at .
The study confirms the statistic I already put on here .

In our study, tissue glucose concentrations in nondiabetic subjects were below 140 mg/dl ( 7.8 mmol) during 99.2% of the total day, whereas other studies investigating continuous glucose profiles in type 1 and type 2 diabetic patients demonstrated that glucose concentrations were above 140 mg/dl during about 60% of the total day or above 180 mg/dl during about 30% of the total day, respectively.

ie yes there can be peaks, but they are very short-lived .

the tables below gives the range of blood sugar and other readings derived from these 24 normal none overweight healthy individudals in their 20's after eating a range of meals including 50g carbs.

50 g carb meals
US UK

Minutes low medium high Minutes low medium high
0 72.1 76.7 81.3 0 4.0 4.3 4.5
30 118.7 137.5 156.3 30 6.6 7.6 8.7
60 111.3 137.2 163.1 60 6.2 7.6 9.1
90 92 112.7 133.4 90 5.1 6.3 7.4
120 92.1 105.6 119.1 120 5.1 5.9 6.6
150 73.8 89.4 105 150 4.1 5.0 5.8
180 58.4 75.6 92.8 180 3.2 4.2 5.2


low medium high
Age 23.5 27.1 30.7
BMI 20.9 22.6 24.3
HBA1C 4.8% 5.0% 5.2%

low medium high
Insulin 26.4 42.4 58.4 pmol liter
Insulin (MIU ) 3.8 6.1 8.4 MIU /L
c peptide 0.42 0.59 0.76 nmol/liter
proinsulin 1.2 3.5 5.8 pmol/liter
cholesterol 3.9 4.6 5.3 mmol /liter
LDL 2.2 2.9 3.6 mmol/liter
Tri 0.5 0.8 1.1 mmol/liter
HDL 1 1.3 1.6 mmol/liter
creatine 73.8 86.4 99 umol/liter
uric acid 213.6 272.2 330.8 umol/liter


so it seems these are the numbers to aim for folks !