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Rudedog

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3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi All,

For the last 4 years I've been hovering around the pre-diabetic range (44-47), last November I slipped to 48. The nurse sent me away to try my best for 2 weeks dieting and the level came down to 47.

I've been for another HBA1c test and the surgery just rang to say the level was now 49 and have 'invited' me for a chat on Monday, I guess I had it coming.

I'm 45, 5'8" and 117Kg so about 40 BMI, always had high cholesterol and a bad family history of CVD, my Dad had his first heart attack at 38 and since then over the years a quad heart bypass and a defib/pacemaker fitted. 2 of my uncles died in their early 40's

I'm hoping this result and any pending lifestyle changes can be a turning point, for too long I've had a serious sweet tooth and always taken the 'it will never happen to me mentality'

I've lurked here for a few months and seen there are so many caring people with an amazing amount of knowledge, I know I've come to the right place for help and support in my battle ahead

One quick thing - is there anything I should be asking at my meeting on Monday?
 
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Bluetit1802

Legend
Messages
25,216
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi and welcome,

The best thing you have done is find this forum.
Now you need to buy a blood glucose meter and start testing out your food choices and make any tweaks necessary.
You also need to learn all about what diabetes is, how our pancreases and livers work, and the role of carbohydrates.
You may find that at your meeting you will be given the usual NHS dietary information to eat carbs at every meal including plenty of starchy ones accompanied by low fat, but don't allow it to confuse you.
You may also be offered Metformin.

Keep reading, and keep asking questions.
 

Rachox

Oracle
Retired Moderator
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I reversed my Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
Hi and welcome! I’m sure you’ve seen it as you’ve been ‘lurking’ but I’ll just tag in @daisy1 for the intro info. in case you’ve missed it.
Just a small point, there’s not actually an awful lot of difference between 48, 47 and 49. You are only just into the diabetic range so I’d have thought you have a strong argument to ask to try diet only. Low carb diet that is, not the NHS Eatwell plate, but I’m sure you know that already. Have a browse around the Low Carb sub forums and Diet Dr if you haven’t already discovered it for meal ideas.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
 

eggs11

Well-Known Member
Messages
638
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi @Rudedog welcome to the forum. As you say, this diagnosis can be a turning point for you and that's a positive thing. I've found it's given me the motivation I sorely needed to finally take care of myself and my health properly. And you are only just within diabetic range - onwards and upwards!
 

Guzzler

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Type 2
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Hello and welcome. Good work on your decision to join us in improving your health and your general well being. Better health starts right here.
 

daisy1

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@Rudedog

Hello Rudedog and welcome to the Forum :) In case you haven't seen this in your travels here, here is the Basic Information we give to new members although you have been a member for some time, and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Rudedog

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Many thanks for the welcome

I think I'll buy a meter as I can't see the docs giving me one, I've seen on the forums that the Codefree is a popular one, just wondering which to get, the mmol/L or mg/dL
 

Rachox

Oracle
Retired Moderator
Messages
15,905
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Many thanks for the welcome

I think I'll buy a meter as I can't see the docs giving me one, I've seen on the forums that the Codefree is a popular one, just wondering which to get, the mmol/L or mg/dL

I have a Code Free and I think you just choose the units in the settings. However in the U.K. we use mmol/l. If you order from Home health ( https://homehealth-uk.com/my-account/ ) here’s some discount codes for the test strips if you buy in bulk:
5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833
You can use them over and over. Don’t forget to tick the box saying you have Diabetes so you don’t pay VAT.

EDIT Just checked the instructions, you do need to choose the units at purchase, they can’t be changed, I apologise, my mistake!
 
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NewTD2

Well-Known Member
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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi All,

For the last 4 years I've been hovering around the pre-diabetic range (44-47), last November I slipped to 48. The nurse sent me away to try my best for 2 weeks dieting and the level came down to 47.

I've been for another HBA1c test and the surgery just rang to say the level was now 49 and have 'invited' me for a chat on Monday, I guess I had it coming.

I'm 45, 5'8" and 117Kg so about 40 BMI, always had high cholesterol and a bad family history of CVD, my Dad had his first heart attack at 38 and since then over the years a quad heart bypass and a defib/pacemaker fitted. 2 of my uncles died in their early 40's

I'm hoping this result and any pending lifestyle changes can be a turning point, for too long I've had a serious sweet tooth and always taken the 'it will never happen to me mentality'

I've lurked here for a few months and seen there are so many caring people with an amazing amount of knowledge, I know I've come to the right place for help and support in my battle ahead

One quick thing - is there anything I should be asking at my meeting on Monday?

Hope this helps and welcome!

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
 
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