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joneb

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I just found out an hour and a half ago over the phone that I have type 2 diabetes. Its not just the shock but I am currently off work with depression and I have an underactive thyroid and sleep apnea. All of these things are being treated with meds and my sleep apnea with a cpap machine. It seems life is a runaway train in a dark tunnel. I don't know how I will cope as with my depression I have been struggling to manage my thyroid and anti depression meds and I have been comfort eating. I like my food so much as its one thing that does make me happier.

I think most of my problems seem to have started with anxiety and depression from when i was young and eating has been a way of being happy. Probably everything else has came from that. Im now a deeply unhappy person a lot of the time. I dont know how to deal with this diabetes and if I can manage it. I don't know if I care to be honest as life is **** anyway and the UK government have targeted the ill and vulnerable for cleansing it seems. I'm sorry to be such a downer but this is who I am right now and I don't know if I'm able to change. Im hoping there are some pearls of wisdom out there that can show me some light.. I always seek and consider good advice.
 
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mo53

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Hello and welcome. Your post made me want to ask you so many questions. Do you work? Do you need to lose weight? Do you enjoy exercising?:)
 

joneb

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Hello and welcome. Your post made me want to ask you so many questions. Do you work? Do you need to lose weight? Do you enjoy exercising?:)
I am a Support Worker but off work with depression. I need to lose weight seriously but it makes me very down and seriously grumpy when i try. I don't mind exercising but I don't do it. In my head I don't believe I can lose weight without piling it on again much worse. When I was much younger and my weight wasn't so bad I managed to get down to the correct weight for a short time but it didn't make me any more happy and i piled it on slowly shortly after that.
 

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Hello. Ive tried all sorts of ways to lose weight and put the weight back on. I was diagnosed diabetic 10 weeks ago and decided to try the low carb diet that many on the website follow. Im really enjoying it and I am losing weight which helps me when I am swimming. Are you on metformin?
 

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Gosh, seems like you are in a bit of a vicious circle..

Type 2 diabetes is manageable but needs to have attention paid to choices of food, but you certainly can have some gorgeous food just made from different ingredients....Have you been put on more meds for your diabetes? What guidance have you been given?

Seems to me as if your depression is quite severe currently. You say as you are happy when you eat, and yet this seems to conflict with the fact that you don't sound happy about your weight?
 
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Just off to bed so will comment further on this tomorrow...do read the thread that @jack412 linked to and you'll see you're not alone. If you'd like to message me please feel free to do so any time x
 

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I just found out an hour and a half ago over the phone that I have type 2 diabetes. Its not just the shock but I am currently off work with depression and I have an underactive thyroid and sleep apnea. All of these things are being treated with meds and my sleep apnea with a cpap machine. It seems life is a runaway train in a dark tunnel. I don't know how I will cope as with my depression I have been struggling to manage my thyroid and anti depression meds and I have been comfort eating. I like my food so much as its one thing that does make me happier.

I think most of my problems seem to have started with anxiety and depression from when i was young and eating has been a way of being happy. Probably everything else has came from that. Im now a deeply unhappy person a lot of the time. I dont know how to deal with this diabetes and if I can manage it. I don't know if I care to be honest as life is **** anyway and the UK government have targeted the ill and vulnerable for cleansing it seems. I'm sorry to be such a downer but this is who I am right now and I don't know if I'm able to change. Im hoping there are some pearls of wisdom out there that can show me some light.. I always seek and consider good advice.

You say you found out OVER THE PHONE??? I'd either have a serious word with your GP or move to another practice because your GP obviously knows your medical history and meds and, more importantly, the current level of your depression and SHOULD (in my opinion) have told you face to face. That way he/she could have explained how having type 2 diabetes COULD affect you, how to manage it etc.
I've been diagnosed type 2 for 8 years and at the time, like most people, was told to stop smoking and lose weight. No matter how much physical exertion I undergo (or how much exercise I did when I was able to) I am still overweight, still smoking (that's my comfort blanket these days) but my diabetes is stable and I have no major side effects.
Please don't get yourself all worked up about everything all at once. First of all I go to your gp or diabetic clinic and get advice on how best to manage YOUR diabetes
You will find this forum helpful for lots of things in general and then take the bits that applicable to your individual circumstances. There are a LOT of websites where you can find out which fruits are best avoided (or eaten in moderation), descriptions of what terminology you will come across and much much more - just type anything that includes the words "type 2 diabetes" into a search engine and you'll be amazed.
I wouldn't be happy giving you advice on what to do as I do not know your medical history or circumstances. All I will say is - get professional advice in the first instance, check out the internet, books etc. and then do what best suits you to manage your diabetes.
 

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I can identify with some of what you said. However, I now think some of my "depression" was down to feeling ill because of undiagnosed diabetes. I felt completely exhausted with it all at first and felt like just giving up and saying sod it all! But I read up on lowering c.arbs and have stuck to it for a month now. I have loads more better days depression wise and have more energy which makes me feel more positive. It's still a struggle but feeling a bit more in control of things makes me feel better- well most of the time!

I decided to make stabilising my BS the priority and any weightloss is a bonus. I can't think about everything all at once either. Hang in there!
 
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daisy1

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Hi joneb and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you understand what to do now. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum :)
 

Loobles

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I am a Support Worker but off work with depression. I need to lose weight seriously but it makes me very down and seriously grumpy when i try. I don't mind exercising but I don't do it. In my head I don't believe I can lose weight without piling it on again much worse. When I was much younger and my weight wasn't so bad I managed to get down to the correct weight for a short time but it didn't make me any more happy and i piled it on slowly shortly after that.
Hi there, as @jack412 mentioned yesterday, I have some eating issues and a, also in the unenviable position that I'm going through a period where things keep going wrong healthwise. I won't bore you with all the details, but let's just say I've been struggling too. Feeling ******, whilst being anxious and down made it really difficult for me to ask for help or even to face up to things (I wasn't sure I had energy for it to be honest), but I'm glad I did because I feel better now than I have in years. Yes, I have a few more labels to my name, but I'm still me, and I'm a work in progress.

Regarding the overeating, I've been having CBT and I can highly recommend it. You can get it on the NHS (very long wait) or you can find your own online at the BACP website and pay yourself at about £90 a session. Typically a course is 8-12 sessions and I'd say they're well worth it. The one I have specialises in eating disorders and that type of specialised input has benefited me greatly (but probably because my eating patters ARE disordered). You can search for specialist therapists on the BACP website, if you feel you need specialist input. My employer found mine for me and paid for her, so I didn't get to choose, but I believe she's been worth every penny, and more. Be warned though, it's not an easy process!
 

joneb

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Hi all thanks for your feedback. All well appreciated. Ive cut out chocolate and biscuits and sugar in tea the last few days and eating less all round. Im eating wholemeal bread and still some root veg and potatoes and smaller portions of cereal than before. Think chocolate, red meat, sausages and big portions of white carbs has been my problem. I dont drink or smoke. The nurse at my gp clinic explained everything a few days after the call, got more appointments and referrals to come though cant remember the details. I wasnt offered a monitor. I dont think Ill get one as my doctor at my clinic at least can be mean. I did get quite low in mood the end of last week. Feeling a bit better now thank you.
 

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Big portions of white carbs are a problem, but I wouldn't worry about meat, sausages nor even the chocolate provided you get the right kind of stuff. Sausages with high meat content are low in carbs as is high percentage chocolate, I go for the 85%.
But I have more cheese than chocs! And sometimes I feel the 85% is too bitter so I melt it and mix with butter.

Have you looked at the Dietdoctor? https://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

Depression is a common symptom of hypothyroidism. Are you satisfied with you thyroid meds? I didn't do too well on Levo so use NDT instead and it is wonderful.