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High blood sugar

Goodgolly

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I have been a t2 diabetic since 2004. Currently I take 1.8 mg Victoza, 3000mg Metformin and 120mg Gliclazide per day.
Normally I test my blood sugar daily. My last Hba1c result was 7.8.
For the past month I have not been following my usual dietary regime. We've had a lot of visitors and I've done lots of cooking and baking, been out for meals etc. I abandoned testing my blood, too. I just became so fed up with the diabetes so can only blame myself for very high blood sugar results in the past couple of days, since resuming regular blood glucose testing. Between 11 and 20 mmol/L. I have drastically reduced my food intake - the blood results were really shocking to me. I walk my dog every day. What I'd like to know is whether I can expect my blood sugar to reduce if I carry on eating very little and taking my normal exercise - or have I reached the point at which I will need to see my Doctor about starting to take insulin? I hate the idea of it, but it's my fault.
 
I have been a t2 diabetic since 2004. Currently I take 1.8 mg Victoza, 3000mg Metformin and 120mg Gliclazide per day.
Normally I test my blood sugar daily. My last Hba1c result was 7.8.
For the past month I have not been following my usual dietary regime. We've had a lot of visitors and I've done lots of cooking and baking, been out for meals etc. I abandoned testing my blood, too. I just became so fed up with the diabetes so can only blame myself for very high blood sugar results in the past couple of days, since resuming regular blood glucose testing. Between 11 and 20 mmol/L. I have drastically reduced my food intake - the blood results were really shocking to me. I walk my dog every day. What I'd like to know is whether I can expect my blood sugar to reduce if I carry on eating very little and taking my normal exercise - or have I reached the point at which I will need to see my Doctor about starting to take insulin? I hate the idea of it, but it's my fault.
I'm really no expert but hope someone on here can advise you. What I would say though ... if it were me, then I'd be going to talk to either my diabetic nurse or my doctor. It may be that you need time to settle back into your eating routine and that it will level back out again? Get some professional advice though x
 
Hi Goodgolly

Welcome to the forum. This is a good place for very good advice, in a friendly manner. You'll get lots of advice and support here.

Diet is very important to diabetics, of course, and there are several ways to go about this. Unfortunately, the professionals tend to advise to continue to eat bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, pastry etc and, for type 2's, that we don't need to test.

Most of us here consider that to be bad advice, in fact. So, yes, reduce/stop bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, pastry etc as all these foods will raise your glucose levels. Your body needs protiens and fats but, actually, doesn't need carbs and sugars. It does need minerals and vitamins though, so vetables are popular choice too, rather than fruits, which obviously will contain sugars.

Also, testing is essential if you want to gain control, in spite of what the professionalsa tell you. They won't prescribe a meter and test strips because of expense and will only prescribe these, generally, for diabetics taking glucose-lowering medications, ie some tablets, some injectionable meds and insulin.

The choice as to the best way forward is up to you, of course, but do read up about different 'diets' and how they work and decide what will suit YOU. Everyone is different and has different needs etc.

I'm tagging @daisy1 so she will post the information that new members tend to get which, hopefully, you will find very helpful

Please feel free to ask questions, however 'silly' they seem to be. There's not such a think as a 'silly/daft' question ;)

Good luck on your journey
 
@Goodgolly

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @Goodgolly and welcome to the forum. Your reduced food intake should lower your bs levels in time. But you should talk to your GP too.
 
Hi and welcome,

Because of the strong medication you are on you need to be very careful if you drastically reduce all your carbohydrate consumption or you may end up with hypos. This will need to be discussed with your nurse/doctor with a view to reducing the doses. However, unless you do reduce your carbs and sugar you won't ever gain control of this disease and could be looking at insulin down the line.

Please read Daisy's post, check out all the links she has included, and use your meter to tell you which of your food choices need amending/eliminating/reducing. Test before you eat then again after 2 hours and record these levels alongside a food diary - look at the rise from before to after, which will tell you exactly what that meal has done to you.

You can then formulate a plan, and take this plan to your nurse to discuss your medication needs. Be aware that your nurse is unlikely to agree with drastically cutting carbs, and if she does disagree, stand your ground. :)
 
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