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HIGH BLOOD SUGAR

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
My fasting blood sugar level is 19.5 I have type 2, and take 1 each of Metformin 500 mg and Gliclazide 80 mg morning and night. I also take for high blood pressure 1 Ramipril 5 mg in morning, and 1 Amlodipine 10 mg in evening, together with 1 Lipitor 40 mg statin.My blood sugar has shot up almost overnight. What, if anything can I do to bring it down before seeing a doctor (bear in mind the delays in getting an appointment to see a doctor).
 
I'm sure @daisy1 will be along with her post for newly diagnosed diabetics, have a good read of it theres a lot of useful information contained in it.

The best thing you can do is to immediately reduce you sugar intake, this includes reducing carbs as all carbs turn to sugar once the body brakes them down, always look at the label on food packaging but not just the sugar % on the front of the packaging, it's the carbohydrates that you need to watch.

As for how many carbs to consume per day, this is different for everyone, carbs for a non diabetic per day is in the region of 225g, a lot of us who follow a Low Carb High Fat diet eat less that 100g, a fair amount try to stay under 20g of carbs per day.

This can have a huge effect on reducing and stabilising blood sugar levels, with many low carbers significantly reducing their levels to the point when medication can be reduced or sometimes even no longer needed. For me i was diagnosed with a reading of 24.8, medication alone dropped this form anywhere between 9 and 15 on avaerage, low carb keeps me stable between 5-6.

Good sources of Low carb foods are

Meat
Fish
eggs
cheese
Non starchy vegetables (basically most things that grow above the ground (there are exceptions such as sweetcorn).

Anything that contains flour stands a very good chance of being high in carbs, and are best avoided ie Bread, pastry & pasta as well as starchy vegetable such as potatoes & carrots.

I can highly recommend keeping a food diary and if you have access to a blood sugar meter, to test you levels prior to eating and then two hours after a meal, don't worry too much about the elevated BG readings, ideally you want to be within a couple of points of your pre food test result.

If you have access to a smart phone theres a couple of apps that make life a lot easier.

My Fitness Pal - allows you to track you food intake and is very handy for calculating carbs.

And if you do test I use Mysugr to track my blood sugar readings.

But the best information I can give, is to ask questions, i'm sure you will have a lot, some of our experiences with our doctors and diabetic teams have been less than exemplary, the information given to us can be misleading and can put you on a path where the disease progesses, requireing more medication and can lead to a host of complications.

Diabetes can be managed, it does not have to turn into a chronic disease, the key thing to staying healthy is access to information, Most advice i have been given by my GP over the years as been of little to no help.

This community is absolutely fantastic, I have learned far more and received better information from the membership of this forum than from my GP, and with their help brought my diabetes under control

Welcome to the forums Colin
 
Hi. Can you tell us a bit more about your weight/BMI and whether you are having a low-carb diet. Have you lost weight recently unexpectedly? Your morning fasting test isn't of much value due to the overnight liver dump. What are your readings like 2 hours after a meal as these can be a better guide?
 
Hi and welcome, how are you feeling generally?

Can you provide some more information so that suggestions can be appropriate.
what are your blood glucose levels like normally? What was your latest HBA1c result? How often do you test a day?
 
I'm thinking you should try to make an appointment with your diabetic nurse as I find it quicker to get in and see her than the doc, especially with such a high number given your medication. I'm on metformin and from what I've learned it wont dramatically drop your numbers, on the other hand your Gliclazide is known to be more effective at this and can even cause hypos. So to me taking both and twice a day should not give you such a high reading unless something is wrong? unless you are eating tonnes of carbs?
 
@SIRCOLINTHEFIRST

Hello Colin and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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