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kalon

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Kent, the bit by the sea.
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So, long story short, I'm type 2 and taking metformin, all has been well, 3-4 weeks ago I started felling thirsty, very thirsty, my mouth was very dry and I was feeling very tired, initially I put this down to the change in meds for an different condition. after a few weeks of feeling this way I started thinking there may be something more than just a change of meds. So I did a glucose reading, the display just showed "HI". I figured this wasn't the machine being friendly, so i gave it a few minutes and tested again, still "HI". I decided to pop in to my local Lloyds pharmacy, where I was advised to go to the local non emergency injury unit, they got me an emergency appointment with my GP, by this time I had a reading of 29.1. The GP has put me on 80mg of Gliclazide twice a day. my readings are still high, bouncing between 15 & 24. I would say that I am worried, but that would be an understatement, TBH, I'm terrified, the GP has told me that the Gliclazide will help, but I am concerned that I may have done something to worsen my diabetes. Why am I writing this? I'm not really sure! My worry is that I may be on my way to Insulin dependence and would like some input from a community of people that understand diabetes better than a GP, don't get me wrong, I have every faith in my GP, but I get the feeling he's only telling me what the text books say.
 
You will get support here kalon. Read around the forum, you will find that reducing your carbs will help a great deal. That's no white stuff, potato, rice, pasta, bread. Eat more good fat, olive oil, coconut oil, avocado. It goes against the norm but it works.
 
So, long story short, I'm type 2 and taking metformin, all has been well, 3-4 weeks ago I started felling thirsty, very thirsty, my mouth was very dry and I was feeling very tired, initially I put this down to the change in meds for an different condition. after a few weeks of feeling this way I started thinking there may be something more than just a change of meds. So I did a glucose reading, the display just showed "HI". I figured this wasn't the machine being friendly, so i gave it a few minutes and tested again, still "HI". I decided to pop in to my local Lloyds pharmacy, where I was advised to go to the local non emergency injury unit, they got me an emergency appointment with my GP, by this time I had a reading of 29.1. The GP has put me on 80mg of Gliclazide twice a day. my readings are still high, bouncing between 15 & 24. I would say that I am worried, but that would be an understatement, TBH, I'm terrified, the GP has told me that the Gliclazide will help, but I am concerned that I may have done something to worsen my diabetes. Why am I writing this? I'm not really sure! My worry is that I may be on my way to Insulin dependence and would like some input from a community of people that understand diabetes better than a GP, don't get me wrong, I have every faith in my GP, but I get the feeling he's only telling me what the text books say.
Welcome to the forum kalon. Don't panic. If you do become insulin dependent it's not the end of the world. I was horrified and depressed to think that an insulin pen was keeping me healthy and alive, but over the last few months I've accepted "my lot" and just adapted to my revised life style. You never know, you may not need insulin :)
 
I guess it's just bought on a bit of a mid life crisis, recent events have been a bit of a wake up call, and I hope that things will sort themselves out soon, they bloomin' well better, I'm going on a short break with my brother in may, and Cornish ale is mighty fine, not that I drink to excess.
 
Hello Kalon welcome
@daisy1 should be along soon with some useful information. Lots of people here have managed to get their Bs levels under control and come off the meds, if they can do it so can you.
 
I hope you get it sorted soon I know it is a worry, I seem to do nothing but this last month :mad: watch as it comes down with careful monitoring of the carbs :)
 
16 days ago...I decided to buy a meter, because I was so very very thirsty - drinking up to 10 litres of water a day. My first reading was 29.2....and I was shocked! I am now getting readings of 11.9 (pre-food) and 13.5 (2 hours after eating). I am following the Low Carb High Fat eating plan - and it does seem to be having the desired effect on my sugar levels. I have learned more in the past two weeks than I have for the several years since I was diagnosed with Type II. I ignored all the warnings....and didn't even believe that I had it. Now I know that I have, and now I am taking control, and only now that all the little symptoms are starting to go, do I realise just what diabetes was doing to me. I have a long way to go, I know that - but just wanted to let you know that you are not alone.
 
It's the whole thing with the change of lifestyle, I think I have convinced myself that I'm too old to change or too set it my ways, I know it's a long road, but with the support of family and friends, and, it seems, a few dozen people I've never met, at least I won't be walking it alone :happy:
 
It's the whole thing with the change of lifestyle, I think I have convinced myself that I'm too old to change or too set it my ways, I know it's a long road, but with the support of family and friends, and, it seems, a few dozen people I've never met, at least I won't be walking it alone :happy:
I believe that embracing "change" is what keeps us young.
 
@kalon

Hello Kalon and welcome to the forum :)

I am hoping that this information that we give to new members will help you to reduce your levels. The important thing is to reduce the carbs in your diet and there is plenty of advice here, both below, and from other members. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
It's the whole thing with the change of lifestyle, I think I have convinced myself that I'm too old to change or too set it my ways, I know it's a long road, but with the support of family and friends, and, it seems, a few dozen people I've never met, at least I won't be walking it alone :happy:
You're too old to change at 49? Blimey, if I can do it you can.
Welcome to the club. Don't be terrified, be terrifically motivated :)
 
thank you, for the info, it will be a great help, I've been told about glycemic index and glycemic load, is this something worth looking into?
 
Thought I'd update you folk on the situation. Thanks to the Gliclazide and cutting out sugar, where possible, my blood glucose levels are returning to normal, phew!
 
Thought I'd update you folk on the situation. Thanks to the Gliclazide and cutting out sugar, where possible, my blood glucose levels are returning to normal, phew!
Hi Kalon
Thanks for letting us know how you're getting on, it's a relief to hear that your bg levels are coming down.
Well done, keep up the good work. :)
 
Thought I'd update you folk on the situation. Thanks to the Gliclazide and cutting out sugar, where possible, my blood glucose levels are returning to normal, phew!

Hi & Welcome Kalon, how do you know your numbers have returned to normal. The numbers you quoted in the first few post were exceptionally high it's not usually that quick to get the number under control.

It's the Carbohydrates you need to be watching as well as the sugar.

How often are you testing?

Have you had a HbA1c by the doctor, which will tell you you your averages BS have been over the last 2/3 months.

Neil
 
I've testing 3 times a day, in the morning, just before my lunch break at 1pm and in the evening, the last couple of morning tests have been below 9, before that they were between 11 & 15, lunch time levels are around 12/13 now, previously 16=18. GP has told me low carb med fat high protien. the first low reading was Sunday morning when it was 9.4. The GP said it would take about a week to come down, it's been 10 days, it certainly seems the gliclazide has done the job. Another plus is I've lost a few pounds too. So there's a positive. I have now set a target weight, when I reach that goal I'm treating myself to some new eyepeices for my telescopes. Shiny!
 
I've testing 3 times a day, in the morning, just before my lunch break at 1pm and in the evening, the last couple of morning tests have been below 9, before that they were between 11 & 15, lunch time levels are around 12/13 now, previously 16=18. GP has told me low carb med fat high protien. the first low reading was Sunday morning when it was 9.4. The GP said it would take about a week to come down, it's been 10 days, it certainly seems the gliclazide has done the job. Another plus is I've lost a few pounds too. So there's a positive. I have now set a target weight, when I reach that goal I'm treating myself to some new eyepeices for my telescopes. Shiny!

Hi, thanks for coming back, If you are overweight then the weight loss will help considerably, but that is usually a little longer term.

Re the numbers it does appear that your numbers have come down. However taking just 3 times a day is just 3 snap shots in time, it's not telling you how the food you eat is affecting you and how long or high your BS has been. Your fasting has certainly improved, but the norm for BS is between 4mmol/L & 7.5mmol/lL,

Lots on here would eat to their meter, i.e. testing just before eating (first bite) then testing at 1hr and then at 2hrs and be aiming for the increase be no more than 2mmol/L.
When you have had high BS like yourself it will help in the early days to test as much as you can so you can find which foods affect you. The Bread Pasta, Rice, Pastry, Cereal, and some fruit may not be ideal foods to keep your sugars under control.

I am surprised you have not had an HbA1c which would give you a very clear indication of how you were and where you have to go in reducing your averages.

Neil
 
I have radically changed my diet, and I will be seeing the practice nurse at the begining of next week so she may well send me off for lots of tests, interestingly tcouncillor the chap I see regarding treatment for bipolar has suggested that the high glucose levels may have been one of the reasons why my anxiety and state of mind have been so erratic. My eye sight is also completely out of sync, close up is considerably worse and distance seems to have improved. it's all very odd.
 
That happened to my eyesight when my levels started coming down (when I started low carbing), very blurry, but after a week or two they improved and within few days went right back to normal. It seems to be a normal occurrence and nothing to worry about.
And you're right about the great Cornish ale, but it's very high in carbs ;)
 
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