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This hour long programme is well worth watching.

"Over a person's lifetime they are likely to be prescribed 14.000 pills. Antibiotics, cholesterol lowering tablets, anti-depressants, pain killers, even tablets to extend youth and improve performance in bed. These drugs perform minor miracles day after day but how much is really known about them? "

If you are interested in cholesterol levels then Chapter 9 is for you. The targets that are set for the whole population are measured in a healthy 25year old and may not be ideal for the rest of us.

http://bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00q9jfs
 
Chapter 6 says it all for me:

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All drugs come with side-effects; however, the side-effects of some drugs proved fatal for a number of people taking them.
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That's why I'm adamant to try and control T2 with diet only for as long as I possibly can. I fully accept that currently my body is out of balance but I'm determined to do everything within my power to correct that balance naturally, not with the aid of synthetic drugs which will have a domino effect on other areas of my health.

No offence to the great many of you forum users who are using drugs, I'm sure it's not through choice but a necessity which I fully accept.
 
Ardbeg said:
Chapter 6 says it all for me:

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All drugs come with side-effects; however, the side-effects of some drugs proved fatal for a number of people taking them.
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To be perfectly honest you are more likely to die crossing the road than from the side effects of any drugs. Let's keep things in perspective.

It is an admirable aim to stay off meds, however some Diabetics even when they would wish to remain off them eventually may have to take meds, possibly for Medical reasons, like many of us.
 
That's why I'm adamant to try and control T2 with diet only for as long as I possibly can
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Excellent ambition Ardbeg and I hope you are able to do it.
I think one of the consultants on the programme made a very salient observation - that often the difference between an effective drug and a poison is simply a matter of the size of the dose.
Diabetics in particular might benefit from bearing that in mind sometimes.

All the best,

fergus
 
At the risk of getting on my soapbox here, I truly believe that the state of your health lies largely in your own hands.

Yes, I fully accept that your genes do pre suppose you to certain conditions or traits; such as obesity; but, by keeping your body in balance and following the maxin "everything in moderation" as a general "life" rule of thumb we we would all stay much healthier for much longer.

I fully accept that my T2 is down to my life choices to date. I've allowed myself to become and remain over weight for over 15 years, I've drank too much alcohol for too long and I've not eaten the right things, in the right quantaties, at the right times.

Everything in life boils down to two things; pain or pleasure.

I knew what I was doing was wrong (for my wellbeing) but the pleasure was too great and therefore it was too painful for me to change my lifestyle. Now I'm T2 confirmed, that see saw of emotions is reversed. Now the realisation (wake up call) that diabetes can lead to my premature death and/or all kinds of nasty medical complications from now until then, the pain of that reality is too great and therefore outweighs the previous pleasure my overindulgences produced.

Sorry, I'm beginning to sound like one of those loony tunes you see on their soap box at Hyde Park Corner on a Sunday morning. :twisted:
 
Hi Ardbeg,
I wonder how your rationale equates with Type 2's who are diagnosed when they do not have a weight problem? 20% of newly diagnosed Type 2's are not obese. Some of these are using medication as well as a suitable diet and exercise. Stress is often the catalyst for Type 2 's.
You are one of the lucky ones who did not need medication at diagnosis and it could be that your insulin resistance is not as pronounced as others. Only time will tell. I hope you are able to remain medication free.

I recently had another health problem, (not diabetic related and through no fault of my own). I needed two courses of steroids and these raised my blood sugars to double figures resulting in my using Glucophase throughout the treatment. Thankfully things are back to normal at the moment but I don't think that any of us can tell what the future holds. The state of my health during this period did not lie in my own hands. Because you are diabetic does not mean that other health problems will not appear and there are lots of medications that will raise your blood sugar levels.
 
Ardberg
I find the "everything in moderation" maxim a difficulty.
I have lots of people saying it to me and I still need to keep to LOW carbs.
I can't handle moderate carbs, I don't wish to have moderate cigarettes, drugs or alcohol.
It sounds so neat when said or written, but doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
I modify it to
"find what truly suits you and keep to it at least 80% of the time".
Hana
 
Seen some of this program the other night. I don't pop pills needlessly, however if they are in my best interests to take them I shall. The doctor I have at present, I believe in him 100%, and I often ask him for both his professional and personal opinion on matters to do with my health. I don't believe for one moment that he would prescibe something for me that he wouldn't use himself.

Sometimes, for reasons you can't explain, you just know in your heart whether someone is being truthful with you, and can tell when someone is sincere, or just taging you along and willing to phobe you off with the latest drug for your condition. Out of a practice of eight doctors, he is the only one I have any confidence with. Sad, but very true.

Pills, for better or worse, are life savers but we should use then wisely.

Nigel
 
catherinecherub said:
Stress is often the catalyst for Type 2 's.

You are one of the lucky ones who did not need medication at diagnosis and it could be that your insulin resistance is not as pronounced as others. Only time will tell. I hope you are able to remain medication free.
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I'm certainly not feeling very lucky where my health is concerned Catherine. I'm convinced my T2 has gone undiagnosed for over a year and I've had a list of the the betes related illnesses - kidney trouble, eye trouble, neuoropathy, dry skin, sleep apnia, fatigue, etc, etc.

I also have a very stressful life which I'm sure was a major contributing factor too.

I'm just glad I'm not a horse. :wink: :)
 
If you already have nerve damage then you should be taking some form of medication to stop further damage but I guess it is your choice.
 
I hear you load and clear shygirl, but, I'm very reluctant to take any prescribed drugs if I can possibly help it.

My belief is that they all have side effects. Also, judging by my wifes experience; the medical profession are adamant that once you are on certain prescribed drugs you have to continue taking them for life. For example, she takes a pill every morning for her high blood pressure. I find that prospect very scary.

I've asked for the opportunity to try and control things by diet only and for the time being my nurse is happy with that choice. Of course, that may change dependent upon my readings/stats at future appointments.
 
Ardbeg
I love the drink! Iam 1 stone underweight I was keeping to a very good diet and lifestyle I went to the docs because I was bullied by my daughters who were concerned about my weight loss ,after a blood test I was very nearly sent to hospital because my bgs were 26 I refused to go to hospital but did go to GP.i have never taken any meds but under the circumstances I am taking Metformin I am also low carbing after finding this site my bgs are not coming down as much as I had hoped but I am determined to stick at it and I intend to come off the met as soon as pos.
I am writing this to show you that there is more to Db than living an unhealthy lifestyle. I hope you can manage your bgs well KEEP AT IT! carol
 
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