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How do people feel about the work of Dr Bernstein?

Andrew Cunningham said:
Not sure this forum is ready for my opinion yet! But thanks for asking.
I'm in reading and listening mode at the moment.
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Well when your ready to actually talk I'm ready to supply input for discussion..
That is the nature of a "forum"... At the moment an "agenda" from you do I sense..

Don't get me wrong I mix it up with all sorts... Including a "lay preacher" T1 mature gent who is a member of a rowing team..
 
I agree with the agenda he did say that in the other thread but the dying bit we all do only thing other than birth we have 100% in common.

Have heard of dr b never knew naught about him...not keen on what l read here so wont waste my time. l will get round to Wheat Belly but Grain Brain by Dr Pearlmitter is my favourite not aimed at diabetics in the same way but includes us.

Think we all realise from this and other posts Andy is hoping to tap it to curing diabetics with hardcore methods as a means to earn a crust. A ....week programme to cure you. Guess no worse than nhs that generally use a .... yr programme to make you worse.
Both sets are generally coming from a direction of ignorance although Andrew may change his approach reading this site and go a sensible help not cure route while nhs 99.9% of the time not only avoid us but treat us as imbaciles who should whorship them as gods the odd one like Southport Dr is a gem in a field of dead chaff.
 
Jaylee said:
Well when your ready to actually talk I'm ready to supply input for discussion..
That is the nature of a "forum"... At the moment an "agenda" from you do I sense..

Don't get me wrong I mix it up with all sorts... Including a "lay preacher" T1 mature gent who is a member of a rowing team..
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You are right, I should not have joined the forum until I have something to input. Wishing you the best though.
 
Jaylee said:
Well when your ready to actually talk I'm ready to supply input for discussion..
That is the nature of a "forum"... At the moment an "agenda" from you do I sense..

Don't get me wrong I mix it up with all sorts... Including a "lay preacher" T1 mature gent who is a member of a rowing team..
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You are right, I should not have joined the forum until I have something to input. Wishing you the best though.
Mud Island Dweller said:
I agree with the agenda he did say that in the other thread but the dying bit we all do only thing other than birth we have 100% in common.

Have heard of dr b never knew naught about him...not keen on what l read here so wont waste my time. l will get round to Wheat Belly but Grain Brain by Dr Pearlmitter is my favourite not aimed at diabetics in the same way but includes us.

Think we all realise from this and other posts Andy is hoping to tap it to curing diabetics with hardcore methods as a means to earn a crust. A ....week programme to cure you. Guess no worse than nhs that generally use a .... yr programme to make you worse.
Both sets are generally coming from a direction of ignorance although Andrew may change his approach reading this site and go a sensible help not cure route while nhs 99.9% of the time not only avoid us but treat us as imbaciles who should whorship them as gods the odd one like Southport Dr is a gem in a field of dead chaff.
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My agenda is, one day, to support a doctor in the doctor's total care of diabetics. That doctor will use a drug free- low carb intervention in the style of Bernstein.
My role would be not to cure but, for those patients that require it, offer some form of psychological support.

I asked in my opening post is it OK to post on here and I accept that for many it is not OK.
 
Andrew Cunningham said:
You are right, I should not have joined the forum until I have something to input. Wishing you the best though.

My agenda is, one day, to support a doctor in the doctor's total care of diabetics. That doctor will use a drug free- low carb intervention in the style of Bernstein.
My role would be not to cure but, for those patients that require it, offer some form of psychological support.

I asked in my opening post is it OK to post on here and I accept that for many it is not OK.
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Then be a little more transparent in your questioning.. Be prepared to discus your ideas.. & more open with the answers.
I feel you are nurturing a "deafeatist" attitude from the start.. Have you considered doing confidence building exercises.?
Even joining a local "amature dramatics" society would be benifitial for this, including team building....
 
mmm lack of spine, honesty and sense of humour. Good luck if you want people to stick to something as strict as Dr B appears to be you do not have what's needed.
Enjoy harley st l am sure the 2 of you are well suited to each other this forum doesn't need over priced offices fancy addresses and BS. We may argue and bicker but we also support each other, don't charge for it and have a pretty good gang of people here.
MID
 
Andrew Cunningham said:
You are right, I should not have joined the forum until I have something to input. Wishing you the best though.

My agenda is, one day, to support a doctor in the doctor's total care of diabetics. That doctor will use a drug free- low carb intervention in the style of Bernstein.
My role would be not to cure but, for those patients that require it, offer some form of psychological support.

I asked in my opening post is it OK to post on here and I accept that for many it is not OK.
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Well, a flak jacket may be necessary, but that is no reason to retreat. :)

One thing I would like to point out is that while your approach is interesting, and IMHO a far better one than many doctors currently use, it doesn't sound much like Bernstein's approach, and it may be misleading to continue to use Bernstein as a comparison.

From reading his book it is clear that he is a regular prescriber of drugs, moving many of his patients onto them, despite their initial requests to stay off them. As I understand it he also prescribes small amounts of insulin to type 2 patients who are unable to resist the carbs and stick to his diet. Which wouldn't happen in the UK, I think.

Now, clearly this is in America, with very different prescription practices, but I don't think Bernstein's approach could ever be likened to a drug free approach.

Besides, that would never work for type 1 and 1.5s, so you certainly wouldn't be offering total care for diabetics.
 
I agree about his use of medications. In a telecast some years ago he mentioned the types of drugs he uses and said that 'only very mild' diabetics would be able to manage without them.
This is the link to a podcast where he talks about it. It comes from an old post of mine, don't know if it still works ., it gets the right page I didn't wait for it to download.
In it ,he quite clearly says he prescribes medication for people alongside his diet and that only those that have what he seems to term very mild diabetes can manage diabetes without some form of drugs.
http://instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=19381665
 
Cheers @phoenix I've just had that podcast on... ( though I'm meant to be working on tunes.)
I've check out his stuff before, but not heard this link...
Yep, I wouldn't dispute Dr B knows his stuff.. Though I would have to respectfully disagree with his comment on Lantus purely on grounds my personal experience differs....

I feel the OP's opening question is not about a discussion on Dr B. But more a leading subject to promote a possible reinvention of the wheel in a ham fisted market research attempt.
A few more sensible articulate answers from members on this subject might do it? (Around two more posts from other members after my " Tom foolery") then the "reveal"...?

Some may agree with this radical new idea? I'll be wanting to find out more.
The questioning & valued opinions on the OPs "scheme" from those who are genuinely interested will result in minor dispute on points mutually agreed on by the OP & the individual/s in the first place & quickly cause them in frustration to drift off the thread... Along with those who feel genuinely intrigued....?

Though, in fairness I see this exercise by the OP as an attempt to play the "straight man" to a "doctor" we know nothing about....
 
Brunneria said:
Well, a flak jacket may be necessary, but that is no reason to retreat. :)

One thing I would like to point out is that while your approach is interesting, and IMHO a far better one than many doctors currently use, it doesn't sound much like Bernstein's approach, and it may be misleading to continue to use Bernstein as a comparison.

From reading his book it is clear that he is a regular prescriber of drugs, moving many of his patients onto them, despite their initial requests to stay off them. As I understand it he also prescribes small amounts of insulin to type 2 patients who are unable to resist the carbs and stick to his diet. Which wouldn't happen in the UK, I think.

Now, clearly this is in America, with very different prescription practices, but I don't think Bernstein's approach could ever be likened to a drug free approach.

Besides, that would never work for type 1 and 1.5s, so you certainly wouldn't be offering total care for diabetics.
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Hi Brunneria
Thanks for your post.
My understanding is that the doctor will be working with mainly type 2 patients.
 
I am reading his book (diabetic solution) about 3/4 way through at the moment. I found the first part very interesting and educational. He certainly seems to know a lot about diabetes, more so than most specialist Drs. And he has completed, and been party to many trials.... He is a fully qualified dr.

His solution, I believe, is all about tight blood sugar levels, and how best to achieve them. His diet / exercise and medication is his recommendation, based on his experience of how to get low blood sugar levels..... If you can get to his recommended low Blood sugar levels without following his diet etc, then you are achieving his solution.

And the sole purpose of his solution, with low blood sugar levels, is to avoid complications and actually have a better, healthier life than most non diabetics. He actually states that he believes that if he wasn't I diabetic he would likely be a lot less healthier.

I started following his recommendations a few weeks back, they have certainly lowered my blood sugar levels, even though I was LcHf beforehand. I miss fruit most, but getting used to it, encouraged by the fact that he has not eaten fruit for 40 years, and not done him any harm.

It has increased my urine storage capacity (nearly double), no longer needing the loo at night time, and much, much less frequently during the day. Now if my blood sugar levels get a little high, I feel like I have a hangover... More reasons to keep them low.

His solution is not an easy solution. It's not for everyone. In my opinion, almost impossible to follow unless you are already low carbing.

I am not on insulin yet, but interesting that he does not recommend insulin pens, because the lowest measurement is one unit, and on his solution, because of the need of much lower insulin levels, he says you need to be able to inject by the 1/4 unit, absolute minimum 1/2 unit, otherwise there is too much risk of hypos.

An interesting read, a remarkable man, I would recommend his book it to any diabetic. He is now 80, diagnosed T1 at 12.


Diagnosed T2 in sept 2013, BS levels 20+. BMI 22, age 58. Requested a GAD test in November, came back very high 2,000+, doc said I would be T1 within weeks, but presently still LADA taking no insulin or medication, and striving to keep my BS readings as close to 'normal' as possible in order to keep as many insulin making pancreas beta cells as possible for as long as I can.
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2 weeks ago I cut out carbs almost completely I am Type 2 and my diet is now yogurt for breakfast maybe a fruit yogurt smoothie for lunch or a piece of fruit and dinner is salad with fish or egg sometimes soya as I dont eat meat. I have lost 3.5 kg in 12 days and feel a lot better. After my visit to diabetic clinic I am hopefully going to do a 10 green smoothie diet/ colon cleanse
 
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