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How long after keto does BS go down

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nsh2111

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi,

I was never a high carber I except occasionally binging on them. Usual 100-200 carbs per day.


Since I have decided to take control back, I am not doing very low carb (20 to 50) but have not yet seen much improvement in my BS. They are around 6.2+ in morning and then stay in range of 6.2 - 8. Depending upon what I have eaten.


Anyone know what can I change to bring them down.
 
that number of carbs will never get you into Keto. What kinds of things are you eating? are you exercising at all?
 
Engineer88 said:
that number of carbs will never get you into Keto. What kinds of things are you eating? are you exercising at all?
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Yes I run, lift some weight once a week, play tennis few times a week. I don't have much weight to loose so it's all body fat which I need to shift and hence want to go low carb so fat can be burned off.

I eat eggs in butter, avocado,spinach, strawberry, mushroom,chicken , salad , courgette, cottage cheese , fish , prawns , Greek yogurt, nuts
 
Engineer88 said:
Be careful of how many carbs you're eating otherwise give it a week or two. have you seen lower numbers previously?
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I only started tetsting for last 4 weeks and lowest o have seen is 5.5 on one afternoon before lunch.

I had 5.0 also after 18 hr of fast but I don't want to fast as I need to gain weight:)

Ok It seems my body is still relying on glucose for energy. I was 6.4 this morning fasting and since then I had two.eggs , tea with milk and half avocado. I am 7.0 now after 2 hrs of eating.
 
It was 14 days for me of "no carbs" diet to bring BG down. Each of us is different. DB2 is function of 5 variables: liver, pancreas, muscle mass, insulin resistance, visceral fat. You have to go for each of it to control your diabetes :-) It takes years to have it under full control.
 
Buy. Ketone meter. Give yourself more time. The fast has brought down you BG which shows it can be done by giving your pancreas a rest. As @Engineer88 stated watch the carbs. Good luck
 
rab5 said:
Buy. Ketone meter. Give yourself more time. The fast has brought down you BG which shows it can be done by giving your pancreas a rest. As @Engineer88 stated watch the carbs. Good luck
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Thanks . I will invest in ketone meter. I have the sticks who show pink colour so I guess I am producing ketone but not much.

What level of ketone you aim for ?
 
nsh2111 said:
Thanks . I will invest in ketone meter. I have the sticks who show pink colour so I guess I am producing ketone but not much.

What level of ketone you aim for ?
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There is quite a bit of debate on this matter. When are you in keto? From what I have read I would suggest 0.6 - 3.0 appears to be a good place to be. You can have higher readings (usually fasting).

The most accurate readings you will get come from the blood finger prick meters for ketones.
 
rab5 said:
There is quite a bit of debate on this matter. When are you in keto? From what I have read I would suggest 0.6 - 3.0 appears to be a good place to be. You can have higher readings (usually fasting).

The most accurate readings you will get come from the blood finger prick meters for ketones.
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Thanks. I will lower carb even more but I am running out of things to eat except eggs butter :)
 
Mel dCP said:
You might find this helpful. Type ones find BG comes down almost instantly with keto, but I believe it can take a week or three for the effects to kick in for type twos.

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This is what Dr Stephen Phinney has written on the virta site. Interesting stuff

How do I get into nutritional ketosis?


By Dr. Stephen Phinney and the Virta Team

Nutritional ketosis happens when dietary carbohydrates are significantly reduced (<50 grams per day) and the body’s production of ketones increases to maintain a blood level at or above 0.5 mM. When you restrict carbs below 50 grams and consume a moderate amount of protein it is normal to have ketone levels of 0.5-3.0 mM. It should be noted that every person’s ability to get into nutritional ketosis is different. Some people will see increased ketone levels after just a few days of restricting carbs while others will take 1-2 weeks before their ketones start to increase, particularly if they are taking medication for diabetes.

Theres a little bit more here https://blog.virtahealth.com/how-do-i-get-into-nutritional-ketosis/

this is good stuff here:- https://blog.virtahealth.com/nutritional-ketosis-faq/
 
Don't worry about the levels of ketones - ketosis is a perfectly natural process, and it will be happily going on from time to time, more and more as you lower carbs, you don't have to push it.
When I went back to low carb after a long period on 'healthy' carbs it took a little while to get down below 8mmol/l after meals, but then I went lower without changing anything, then my numbers became really erratic for a short while - something was obviously going on but I am not sure what - it must have been good as my numbers dropped down fairly low where they have stayed, being normal at 6 months from diagnosis.
I started off with 50 gm of carbs a day as a maximum, now down to 40 to try to lose more fat.
 
Resurgam said:
Don't worry about the levels of ketones - ketosis is a perfectly natural process, and it will be happily going on from time to time, more and more as you lower carbs, you don't have to push it.
When I went back to low carb after a long period on 'healthy' carbs it took a little while to get down below 8mmol/l after meals, but then I went lower without changing anything, then my numbers became really erratic for a short while - something was obviously going on but I am not sure what - it must have been good as my numbers dropped down fairly low where they have stayed, being normal at 6 months from diagnosis.
I started off with 50 gm of carbs a day as a maximum, now down to 40 to try to lose more fat.
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Agreed. I will just cut down carbs and ear more fat. As my other posts have said, I want to burn body fat ( currently at 24%) and gain muscles/weight.
 
Quick update, this morning I am 5.7 fasting. This is after first few consecutive days of real low carb without alcohol as well. In ketosis as per the strips
 
nsh2111 said:
Quick update, this morning I am 5.7 fasting. This is after first few consecutive days of real low carb without alcohol as well. In ketosis as per the strips
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That’s great.
 
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