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How long to get type 2 under control ????

rospaul1418

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Hi Everyone
I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only 1 week ago and my score was 10.9 , I am waiting to see the specialist nurse but don't see her for another 2 weeks ,Today I bought a Accu-Chek Aviva and did a test 2 hrs after eating and the score was 13.4 is there anything i can do in the mean time to help. I am on 500mg of metformin at present, hope all this makes sense ? . i also have Ankylosing Spondilitis, COPD , and High Blood Pressure so exercise is very ltd .
 
Hi rospaul and welcome to the forum :) See if this can help you. This is the information that we give to new members and this should help you to get your levels down and generally look after yourself as well as possible. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will usually have the answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS


Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Hi. Daisy's advice about controlling your carb intake is the most important thing you can do until, and after, seeing the nurse. It's good you have a meter so continue to monitor 2 hours after a typical meal if you want to check the effect of particular foods.
 
rospaul
A LOT depends on what you regard as "under Control"
I can only refer to my own situation
I believe that no targets make sense unless they are to have the blood sugar levels of non-diabetics. If you follow NHS guidelines, you are very unlikely EVER to get there, because they don't expect you to.
I'm nearly there. I'm VERY strict with my low carb diet and use minimal medication. I'm also complication free and haven't suffered "progression" or increase in medication in 10 years since diagnosis. It takes a bit of dedication to do this and it's my own choice. Many diabetics prefer to use NHS guidelines for what constitutes control. which is Blood glucose levels of 4 - 7 before meals and up to 8 two hours after eating..
Since non-diabetics have blood glucose levels which don't stray far from 5 pretty much all the time, I'd be horrified if I got a reading above 7.
You have a great deal to learn about diabetesbefore you can make decisions about your own targets, but I respectfully suggest you take note of the people who KNOW. In other words patients. Very often the Health care professionals don't know as much as they'd like you to believe. You do have to keep on their good sides, because only they can give you a prescription if you need one.
My methods will get blood glucose down in a few days , but HCP don't approve of it. I avoid eating stuff which puts blood glucose up in the first place. ie carbohydrates.
See your nurse and ask "Why?" to everything she/he suggests. Asses her/his answers and decide if it suits you and makes sense to you. If it doesn't, come back here and someone will help you out. If you have "A" level biology or a higher level of science education, that will make everything a bit easier.
Hana
 
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